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Hi Derek and Jennymack

The question is whether John Mackintosh c.1743 (Wolsingham) is the son of Robert Mackintosh and Euphame Johnson (married 1738) Edinburgh?

At the risk of doing Jennymack's University coursework for her;

I have been checking original source material from the Scotlands People website and you may be interested in some details. The writing is difficult and I have no experience reading and interpreting old documents but feel free to check yourselves for any errors or misinterpretations.

The marriage of Duncan Mcintosh and Jean Brisbain took place 11th April 1672.

In the baptism of Robert Mackintosh 13th April 1694 the occupation of Duncan is that of a merchant and baillie (I believe this to be a civic office) which shows he was a prominent person.

In the marriage of Robert Mackintosh 26th March 1738 his occupation is shown as a Writter (I believe that to be a lawyer) and he is of that parish. Euphame Johnstone is the daughter of the deceased George Johnstone in time in Orkney but now in this parish.

The baptism record of John Mackintosh 11th Feb 1743 shows his father Robert's occupation as a Writer in Court (which I think shows he was indeed a lawyer).

From this information I would suggest that these are extremely prominent Edinburgh families of the time especially Robert Mackintosh. Almost certainly John Mackintosh(1743) as the son of a lawyer would have gone to a good school and be well educated.

Is this the same John Mackintosh who moves to Wolsingham and ends up a chimney sweep and pauper?

I know from documents that John Mackintosh's grandson also John Mackintosh (1822)(son of William Mackintosh(1791) is illiterate.

 This link between the Edinburgh and Wolsingham  Mackintoshs although very possible does seem a little weak so I do wonder how strong the oral history evidence really is.

Mctosh

Hello

I did find a record of a marriage between a Robert Mcintosh and Euphame Johnstone 26 Mar 1738. The location Parish,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland.

They appear to have had a few children

Elizabeth Mackintosh(1740)
Nicol Mackintosh(1741)
John Mackintosh(1743)
Lachlan Mackintosh(1746)

The population of Edinburgh in 1700 was estimated at between 50-60,000 people.
Although McIntosh in quite a common name Euphame Johnstone is not so common.
For a marriage between a Euphame Johnstone and a McIntosh with a child John Mackintosh born 1743 would be quite rare.

The oral history differs in that the name of John's father is Robert not John otherwise Euphame Johnstone OK. Location OK Year of birth OK Origin of Euphame Johnstone yet unknown.

Mctosh

Hello Derek,

Thank you for the source location of Robert Hunter Mackintosh. I wonder if you have any more information on this Robert or on any of the Wolsingham Mackintosh's brothers.

As you say there are five Mackintosh sons of John and Ann (Wolsingham).

This is some information in which I have researched and you and perhaps others may be interested.

John(1789) married Elizabeth Dodds(1791) in 1808 in Wolsingham.

James(1796) married Ann(1796 b.Ireland) and their son George(1826 b.Wolsingham) moved to Hartlepool. The census shows Ann moved to live with him in later life. It seems you belong to this branch.

George (1796) married Jane Dickinson(1797) in 1814 in Wolsingham but this family were living in Middlesbrough at the time of the 1841 census.

William(1791) married Rachel Stuart(1801) in 1820. They had two children born in Wolsingham Jane (1820) and John (1822). The family seem to have moved to Monkwearmouth where Hannah (1824) May Ann(1827) and Mary(1829)  were born. They then moved to Middlesbrough where their last child was born Rachel(1832).

William(1791) is shown in the 1841 and 1851 census living in Middlesbrough. The 1851 Census shows Williams birthplace as sic. Wolsington

William(1791) 's son John Mackintosh(1822) is shown as single in the 1841 census living in Stainton  as  a potter. John (1822) married Ann Deal (Doyle) 1843. They had one child Alice(1844) who only survived a few weeks. His wife Ann Mackintosh died in 1848.

John(1822) by this time living in Stockton remarried a widow Ellen Pullin (Nee Smith - Daughter of Wilson Smith) and they had three children Wilson McIntosh(1851) Rachel McIntosh(1852) and William McIntosh(1856).

John(1822) died in 1859 and Ellen Mackintosh remarried an Irishman John Craig and their progress and the three McIntosh step childen can be followed in the census. A record of John(1822)'s death can be found in the Durham County Advertiser.

Wilson McIntosh(1851) married Mary Watson and had eight Children. Rachel(1852) married late in life Thomas Appleton((1855) in 1892 and had no children. William McIntosh(1856) married Elizabeth Gillson(1862) in 1880 and had ten children.

To cut a long story short one of these children of William(1856) Robert McIntosh(1895) is my paternal grandfather.

This is only my second post. Not sure how pm works yet or anything else on this website. Hope someone can shed light on your original query.

Mctosh