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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Kirker Family
« on: Monday 24 January 22 13:39 GMT (UK)  »
Good Morning all

Please forgive me if I repeat anything that has already been said. 

I research Kirkers worldwide being the grandaughter of a Kirker I became fascinated by them and was lucky enough to be able to build upon research done by mother's cousin in the 1980s.  I have a public family tree on ancestry - Kirker Family Tree.  It is made up of many many branches which sadly do not interconnect - although I live in hope one day.

The Kirkers are a Scots Irish family who have been in Northern Ireland since the 1680s.  If you do any research in Scottish records there a very few to be found and all after that date.
To the current topic of William.  It has been a few years since I tried to find his origins.  In 2017 I wrote notes that can be found in the Gallery on my tree. 

I found 4 in Australia/New Zealand. 
1. William Kirker who married Isobel was in NZ by 1884.
2. A William Kirker in Queensland in 1889.
3. A William Kirker whose body was found at Waikato Heads in 1891 and
4. William Kirker who died in 1887 at Southland Hospital, Invercargill (my family).

William Kirker who married Isobel's obit states that he was born in Victoria, Queensland. He was 70 years old and was born c. 1844.  Most of the Kirkers that I can think of at the moment in Australia all emigrated after 1844.  This group originated from Belfast/Antrim. The other Kirkers arrived in Sydney, Alexander and Sarah, in 1841.  They have been referred to in above messages.  Alexander was married twice and had no issue.  He died in 1886 and his will benefitted Ellen and Samuel Kelly (wife Sarah's convoluted family who were brought to Australia by them) and Alexander's wife.  Many newspaper articles.

You can check my tree list for other Williams I have found.

Kirker convicts.

New South Wales, Australia, Convict Records, 1810-1891
Phoenix Hulk: Weekly Transportation Entrance Books 1838-1846
Volume Number 4/4538
Name of Prisoner: William Kirker
Ship: Henry Packer
Colonial Conviction
Where: Circuit Court: Berrima - New South Wales
When: 10 Sept 1846
Offence: House Stealing
Sentence: 12 years
Second Conviction
Probationary Gang - Van Diemen’s Land

There is also a John Kirker who was sentenced in York, England for 7 years transported on the Ship Moffatt2. Convicted in York, England. Freed 1 Sept 1843 Tasmania - having been pardoned on 12 July 1843.  Nothing else known about him.

Sady I am stumped, but records turn up all the time… I hope some of my references will help with your research.  DNA may be your best route.

Good Luck.  Karen

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I have 3 photos of women with varying descriptions on the back.  The are definitely family members.  I would be very grateful if you could look at them and date them for me ....

1. Lady in green.  Description "great aunt Josephine Helbling 1840 (died) sister of Lewis Helbling (grandpa)".  I have been unable to find her in records. Parents married in 1782 and my 2nd great grandfather Lewis was born in 1796.  Lewis emigrated to England in 1818 and left his family in Vienna, Austria where she will have lived.
2. Lady in black and white.  This portrait has been described on the back as "Reprint of Josephine? Gt Grandmother to James Helbling - wife of Lewis P Joseph Helbling" and "Maria Josephine Helbling, Vienna" and "great grandmother Helbling of James Helbling and Amelia Carey".  Great grandmother  of James would mean the portrait is from Vienna and the date between 1770-1830.  Wife of Lewis Helbling would place the lady as English, living in London 1804-1837. Or of course it could be that the portrait is of a younger great aunt Josephine (died 1840) of Vienna.
3. Lady in pink. I love this portrait but have no idea who she is. There are no notes on the back.  I hope it is my 2nd gt grandmother Jane Helbling 1804-1837.  She was born in Otford, Kent of parents, who on their marriage could not write their names.  She married in 1823 at the age of 18, a 26 year old merchant from Vienna, Austria, named Lewis Helbling. By 1835 he was a partner in silk merchants in London. Sadly she died at the age of 32 having had nine children.

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The Common Room / Re: Robert Glass, Linen Merchant, Lurgan, Portadown & Belfast
« on: Monday 12 December 16 21:26 GMT (UK)  »
I am a descendent of Robert Matier 1776-1834 and Elizabeth Glass 1776-1831 via their daughter Eliza Matier who married Alexander Kirker.  Eliza's siblings were Robert Matier m. Anna Hawthorne and Henry Matier both Linen Merchants and Daniel Matier.

I am interested in all Connections to this Matier family and I am also currently trying to find the link between Elizabeth Glass and the Glass family who emigrated to Pennsylvania, PA between 1848-1853 possible children of Samuel Glass.

I do not live in Northern Ireland but I do live in the U.K.! I shall need read all the posts!


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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Kirker Family
« on: Tuesday 09 December 14 09:24 GMT (UK)  »
I am researching Kirkers in Northern Ireland and beyond in the hopes of fitting as many pieces of the jigsaw together as I can... All Kirkers are of interest.
Petmar707 posted the information below and I would be very interested in learning more about this family.  The witness database has Belfast after Alexander Kirker's name and NZ after Margaret Robinsons.  Does anyone know more about this family?
Many thanks

Original Message from Petmar707:
I came across your site and note;
1. look up James Kirker on the internet - a remarkable fellow
2. On my fathers side I have an Alexander Kirker born 1864 County Antrim NI married Margaret Robinson 18/4/1886 St Anne's Belfast --- I have an Alexander Kirker born 1894 Scotland son of the above
Elizabeth Kirker Born Belfast 1900 daughter of the above County Antrim and a Thomas Kirker b 1830 who I understand was the first named Alexander's father .

Thought you might be interested


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