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Lancashire / Re: Mary Fairclough born c.1812 Preston - sister Jane Fairclough?
« on: Monday 10 January 22 07:39 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you, that's something to delve into further. Some 20 years after their marriage they lived at Cuerden for a while.

Another piece of the puzzle is that they had their first child four months after the wedding. Is it possible they would marry outside of their home parish because of this? Is this the sort of thing you tried to hide in 1835?

I've looked through the 1841 census for Cuerden looking for a Fairclough family, but there were none.

Tim

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Lancashire / Re: Mary Fairclough born c.1812 Preston - sister Jane Fairclough?
« on: Monday 10 January 22 04:37 GMT (UK)  »
She died 7th September 1869 in Hulme, when her age was recorded as 58 years (given by her husband as informant).

Tim

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Lancashire / Mary Fairclough born c.1812 Preston - sister Jane Fairclough?
« on: Sunday 09 January 22 02:48 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I'm hoping someone might be able to help me through a brick wall.

I'm descended from a Mary Fairclough born c.1812 in Preston. She went on to marry a Robert Miller in 1835 in an Anglican ceremony in Leyland. I'm trying to find out her parents.

Looking at the Online Parish Clerks, there are about 20 Mary Faircloughs baptised / born in the area within a couple of years (going from Anglican parish records). I've tried to narrow down her DOB through census records, but her stated age is sometimes out by a year. Her marriage certificate doesn't have an age.

A Jane Fairclough and a John Bolton were witnesses to the marriage, so perhaps Jane is a sister - but again, Jane Fairclough is not an uncommon name.

One approach that occurs to me is to trace the marriage records of all Mary Faircloughs, then find these Marys in the Census records. By looking at the ages they have and the stated birthplace, then I might be able to eliminate at least some of them.

I might also see if there are Fairclough parents that have children Mary and Jane.

DNA doesn't seem to yield any plausible matches.

Does anyone have any suggestions for other approaches I might take?

Thanks you!

Tim

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The Common Room / Re: Threatened over my Family History research
« on: Thursday 06 January 22 22:53 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for saying that - it continues to be a labour of love. Which is perhaps one of the reasons that I became so upset when I felt attacked by this other person about what I do.

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The Common Room / Re: Threatened over my Family History research
« on: Thursday 06 January 22 02:49 GMT (UK)  »
This link http://www.thosebefore.com/index.htm   

Tim,  I am quite sure that there's naught you need to change in your opening remarks on that site's current home page.    I particularly enjoyed reading the names of the localities at the "Places Index" ...  I was born and bred 'on the Lachlan'.  Some of those surnames I recognise from my school days...  ... 

Now, I share ... to bring smiles all round ...  I am a "Condo Socks" proud owner  - they are the very best clayton's socks around. Drop Bears cannot have them but if you change out of your school uniform after school hours,  you will have your Condo Socks on - or if you have been outdoors participating in sport or outdoor activities for gainful employment or for personal pleasure you will have earnt your Condo Socks too ...

JM

Thanks JM - that's an expression I haven't heard before, but I think I get what you are saying!

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The Common Room / Re: Threatened over my Family History research
« on: Wednesday 05 January 22 22:11 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you all so very much for your responses - they are sound advice and really help in a practical sense, but also to relieve my mind. I do source everything on my website comprehensively, so I am covered there.

This is the first time I have been faced with this sort of threat - and it was another member of this family who told me about this connection anyway, so I imagine that there are fights within the family as well.

Once again, thank you all!

Regards, Tim

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The Common Room / Threatened over my Family History research
« on: Wednesday 05 January 22 00:33 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all,

I hope someone can give me some guidance here, as this is making me quite agitated.

On my family history website I have a profile for someone born c.1870 in Australia. She was involved in an interesting court case. As part of the contemporary newspaper reporting, it was said of her that she was half Australian Aboriginal. On my website I said in a note that she was half Australian Aboriginal.

I was contacted by a member of her extended family to say that this was untrue; he had done research which showed her ancestry back on both sides to England etc.

I checked what I had written, realised that I really should have said "A contemporary newspaper reported that she has half Australian Aboriginal, but there is no evidence to support this", and emailed the other researcher to say that I would make this change, and offered to accept any further research he has done. The other researcher emailed me back with what (to me) sounded quite angry words, saying that if I didn't take this incorrect information down, he would take 'further action'. he stressed that he was not racially motivated.

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So what to do? I don't enjoy conflict and don't want this to turn into a fight. I also don't really have any skin in the game; I am not related to the subject of the article.

I've got a range of options, and could really do with some help.

Regards,

Tim

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Norfolk / Re: James Torrens/Torrance Smith married Lydia Manthorpe
« on: Friday 28 November 14 10:14 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I have an interest in this family too, and have recorded the results of my research at http://www.thosebefore.com/g0/p270.htm. I am particularly strong on his son Walter Thomas Smith who came to Australia, and I have been lucky enough to have received good information from many other researchers.

However, I don't know anything about James (c1817-1900) m. Lydia Manthorpe. i see there was some interest in obtaining his marriage certificate - did someone actually obtain it? I'd be very interested in seeing what was on it, especially relating to his parents etc. and how it ties into the possible baptism certificates.

Thanks,

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