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The Common Room / Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide Springett?
« on: Saturday 01 August 15 12:12 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
Off out in a minute but will be in touch later to share the information I have.
I think Horace Warner who took the original photographs owned the original copyright, his family may well now have the rights passed on to them.
If you contact The Gentle Author on Spitalfield Life he may be able to help you with gaining the permission you need.
I have seen a few of the 'Nippers' images used on other websites but am unsure whether this is permitted and I think it's maybe best to check first.
Speak later.
Kind regards
Helen

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The Common Room / Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide Springett?
« on: Saturday 01 August 15 10:50 BST (UK)  »
Hi 'Uncle John'
I did ask B if he wanted to view the tree on Ancestry that I made during my research for the book.
The offer is still open if you want to view it?
Helen

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The Common Room / Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide Springett?
« on: Friday 31 July 15 23:50 BST (UK)  »
Posted by: IONICUS
« on: Monday 18 May 15 13:17 BST (UK)  » Insert Quote
Adelaide's birth certificate shows her having the same parents as my grandfather. Solved.

Wonderful news!
Haven't been back to check this Adelaide thread in a while as I have been working on other things, then this just popped up!
Say hi to Your Nephew (B) from me, he is a little tardy with his emailing but I guess he is busy with his studies?
The war document of enlistment for William was not on ancestry, it was on Genes Reunited.
My membership on both these have now lapsed and unfortunately once lapsed you cannot view the original documents, hopefully someone may be able to give you the details on enlistment if you ask for a look up.
Hope the family are well and good luck in your future.
Kind regards Helen




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The Common Room / Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« on: Friday 21 November 14 22:27 GMT (UK)  »
That could well be a possibility as names are sometimes transcribed incorrectly.
She is listed as born in Forest Gate? And the other girl is said to born in what I think says Plaistow?
Think Forest Gate is a bit further out from what I can see on the map it looks like it is in Newham?
It could be like you say, all occupants details may have been completed by the Manageress who may not have known her background at all.







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The Common Room / Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« on: Friday 21 November 14 21:04 GMT (UK)  »
Lizzie, that is what I have for Elizabeth but am waiting to see if it can be confirmed at all.
Wm enlists on 30/01/1907 and his Mother has a death record that may match in oct-dec 1907 so she was alive when he signed up?

I totally agree Annie.
I have found the same situation as this with a relative of mine.
Slightly different but all 3 lived together for many years and all helped raise the young children together regardless of parentage. Quite an enlightened family really for the 1930's.



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The Common Room / Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« on: Friday 21 November 14 16:02 GMT (UK)  »
Oops Mile End Old Town.

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The Common Room / Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« on: Friday 21 November 14 15:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Lizzie,
I have the same as you regarding Haley family but do not know a lot about these parishes either.
I cannot confirm any birth records for any of the Haley girls as I have not found their baptisms.
The census records for this family are not all there but the Father is in the electoral roll of 1888 and 1890.
I may not be correct but he may be the inmate in M.E.N.T. in 1901?
I have the marriage of one Sister and the other girls are purely guess work and cannot provide thus far, any more information as to the whereabouts of Adelaide.

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The Common Room / Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« on: Friday 21 November 14 14:35 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the head up on 1911 census.
That new information could well be right.
Kind regards
Helen

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The Common Room / Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« on: Friday 21 November 14 13:24 GMT (UK)  »
Morning all,
I stumbled across this post whilst trying once again to locate Adelaide.
Agree that she is probably the Adelaide Hurling on the Bona list but like all of you I cannot find a marriage for her and her Husband who i think is Frank Hurling.
I wonder if Frank was previously married? Despite trying different permutations I cannot find
any marriage record on either BMD, Ancestry or Genes.
I wonder if their relationship was not formalised as he was legally bound to another?
There is an Adelaide and Frank in the electoral rolls from 1939-1951.
I think he may have died in Chelsea in 1952 as there is an Adelaide is living in the late 50's-60's  in Chelsea.
There is still a question mark over the life and outcome of her Brother William John Springett who is  in the forces, he enlisted in Spitalfields in 1907 and gives his address as a boarding house.
There is a marriage for a William J Springett who married who marries in 1921, it looks as if this Wm died in 1926...

Another possibility is a death of a William J Springett in 1954 which is the same place I think his Father died.
Perhaps between us all we can try to solve a few of the outstanding questions we have in the search of Adelaide...
Where is she in the census of 1911? (I have traced her Great Aunts and Uncles and she does not appear to be with them)
Where is Adealide pre the 1939 electoral roll?
If Frank was married, who was his Wife? (There are a few possibilities)
Is Frank British or did he come over during the war?
What happened to her Brother?

Anyone got any other avenues we need to pursue?

Kind regards
Helen

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