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Midlothian / Re: Death Record 1792
« on: Tuesday 10 November 20 05:10 GMT (UK)  »
Not sure about a clip [??]. It just says Alexander Drysdale CWH Coffin. And since I posted this question I'm not sure it's who I'm looking for anyway. In 1809 John Wood married Ann Drysdale "Daughter of the late Dr Drysdale of the Island of Tobago". I came across this death for Alexander Drysdale in scotlandspeople and thought the notation might mean that his body was brought back from Tobago. But then I found there was a Robert Drysdale in the Jamaican Gazette, known as Dr Drysdale, who died a month earlier than the marriage of Ann Drysdale and John Wood. Ann was born in 1788, and there were two Alexanders and a Robert who have Anns born that year, so I'm thinkig now that her father was Robert, not Alexander...But thanks for querying it.
Cheers, Heather

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Midlothian / Death Record 1792
« on: Monday 09 November 20 03:33 GMT (UK)  »
Hi. Can anyone tell me what "C.W.H. Coffin" following the deceased's name might mean on a death record? (There are no other details eg age or Place of Internment.)
Thanks, Heather

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Dunbartonshire / Re: Barbour, Dunbarton
« on: Monday 31 May 10 04:19 BST (UK)  »
Thanks tullyboy, I have googled Garelochhead & then searched for Barbour & have found Barbour Farm, which is on the other side of the peninsula to Rosneath & south of Ardpeaton.  So that answers my question  :) about the locality.  Have also found it on old maps & a 2004 Ordnance Survey map shows a cemetery across the road from the house, so will follow up.
Cheers

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Lanarkshire / Re: Thomas Hetherington Glasgow/Rutherglen
« on: Sunday 30 May 10 22:45 BST (UK)  »
This is a reply to BB - I haven't had a chance to get back here for quite some time & have just read your last [14 December 2008] response about Thomas Hetherington & Janet Bainbridge.  You & I are related - Andrew Simpson Hetherington was my great granduncle.  His brother George Brown Hetherington b 1872 was my great grandfather.  I have six children for Thomas & Janet - aforesaid Thomas b 1865/1866, Elizabeth Brown b 1867, Mary Reid b 1870, George Brown b 1872, Andrew Simpson b 1877 & Janet b 1880.

I'd love to discuss this further. If you're still out there somewhere can we please somehow communicate further?

broome heather aka crankyannie

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Dunbartonshire / Barbour, Dunbarton
« on: Sunday 28 March 10 07:45 BST (UK)  »
I'm looking for information about Barbour in the early 1800s.

I have tracked my 3rd gt grandmother Euphemia Chalmers to having been born there in 1815.  Like her siblings, her birth was registered at Rosneath [Roseneath? either sp seems to be acceptable?] & [I think] have found MIs for relatives of hers on the Rosneath Cemetery site but would like to know what Barbour was - a farm?  a village? would the family have been share-farming?

Any clues, anyone?
Rgds
crankyannie


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Lanarkshire / Re: Thomas Hetherington Glasgow/Rutherglen
« on: Saturday 13 December 08 22:04 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry, I meant to get back to BB yesterday - but yes, Thomas married Janet Hynd Bainbridge & I have found her as Janet Bassage arriving in New York on the 3rd October 1864. 

They subsequently reappear in Rutherglen in Scotland, in the 1871 & 1881 Censuses, with children including Thomas b 1865 in New York. 

Janet died in 1882, aged 40, & Thomas Snr remarried in 1883 but then died 1884.  On his marriage certificate with Annie Barbour who, it seems, dropped her age by 10 years when she married, his parents are "Unknown". 

But I guess I keep hoping that the marriage to Janet might turn up & have more information.  And what I wonder is whether he went to live with the Craigs & shows as an orphan in the 1851 Census because they had some connection with his parents - or was it just chance?

BB, I am still looking but haven't found any ways to discover more.  Thanks for pursuing him to the Undertaker [no pun intended!]

Cheers
broome heather

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Midlothian / Re: Duncans Inveresk & St Cuthbert's
« on: Wednesday 24 May 06 05:49 BST (UK)  »
Hey, look, before anyone LEAPS to answer this [??] I posted the message before checking my mail & found the OPR marriage record I ordered ages ago for John Duncan & Margaret Wadell - having read that conversation on this board about irregular marriages I'm not as stumped as I would have been by the fact that theirs was an irregular marriage subsequently approved by the Kirk Session, which information tends to have me believe that the lad was indeed under age rather than it being a second marriage.

Any other thoughts still greatly appreciated.

broomeheather

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Midlothian / Duncans Inveresk & St Cuthbert's
« on: Wednesday 24 May 06 03:17 BST (UK)  »
Please can somebody cast their eye over this little lot & let me know which way they would go with the information.  How I wish there were online death records pre 1855!

When my James Duncan died in 1878 his son Walter said James' parents were John Duncan & Janet Robertson.

James' age in each census [except for rounded 1841 age] was 53 in 1851, 63 in 1861 & 73 in 1871 - very consistent - which puts his birthdate somewhere very early 1798 or second half of 1797.  In each census he said he was born in Musselburgh.

John D & Janet Robertson had 8 children that I can find, all born in St Cuthbert's, the last christened probably 1st August 1787 & no James.  They did have a John, recorded 1775.

There's a James D born to a John & Margaret Wadell Feb 1798 in Inveresk.  These two married in Jan 1788.  This John was a gardener, as was James.  It seems likely that I have the right James.  The only trouble is, if this John Duncan was son of John & Janet, he would have been barely 13 when he married.  The Margaret Wadell I think possible [b Prestonpans 1769] would have been 5 or 6 years older than him, not impossible. 

It suddenly occurred to me that the John Duncan who married Margaret Wadell could have been John the older & maybe Janet Robertson had died at the birth of her last child in 1787.  Would it be likely though, that John Duncan would move to Inveresk from St Cuthbert's?  He & Margaret had 8 children, 7 of whom were born at Inveresk & the last at Manor, Peebles.  Would this be consistent with the life of a gardener? 

How can I find out if John Duncan was in fact not 5 years younger than Margaret Wadell but 15-20 years older?  Is there some way I can find out when Janet Robertson died?

I should say that James' death certificate would seem conclusive, except I have found with someone else that the named parents did point to grandparents rather than parents of the deceased so I'm not wanting to jump to conclusions too hastily.

If anyone has any clues or thoughts please let me know. I'm trying ot put together an album for my mother's 80th in a few weeks & have just a few more bits for the puzzle back to the late 1700s.

In hope...

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Lanarkshire / Thomas Hetherington Glasgow/Rutherglen
« on: Friday 05 May 06 06:57 BST (UK)  »
I posted a previous request for help about this fellow [Orphan rutherglen 1851] in March & received a suggestion about Poor Relief sources but that has been a dead end - my request to the archives met with no result, although someone searched for me, which was great. 

By one of those impulses one sometimes has to look for something known to be impossible, I checked the 1841 Census for Thomas Hetherington.  He was supposed to be aged 7 in April 1851 but I found a Thos Hethrington aged 0 - actually 7 months , so born Nov or Dec 1840 - in a household with no other Hetherington.  This is my transcription:

1841 Census
East Clyde St, Bridgegate, Glasgow, Lanark
Household:
Robt Russell 25 Plumber b Lanark;
Elizabeth Russell 20 b Lanark;
Robt Russell 15 mo b Lanark;
Sarah Ross 30 b Outside Census County;
Sarah Inglis[?] 20 Fur Cap Maker b Outside Census County;
Elizabeth Murray 19 Fur Cap Maker b Lanark;
Thos Hethrington 7 mo b Lanark;
Anne McNab 19 [?can't decipher?] Hat Maker b Outside Census County

The census taker in that area seems to have been an orderly person - other families I look at around this address have father mother & children in order of birth, so I'm inclined to think that his mother was Elizabeth Murray.  However, can anyone suggest how I can find out what was in the Kirk Sessions perhaps, or about her death before 1851 perhaps, or .....???  I can find no birth record for this boy.

In 1841 there were only 59 other variations on the name Heaterington, soundexed, in Lanark.  By 1851 there were still only 94 recorded.  It's not a common name [like some of my others - Simpson & variations for example has 2361 in 1841 in Lanark] & I am hoping that this 7-month-old is my ancestor, the first sighting thereof.

Any clues anyone?

Thanks
bh

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