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Inverness / Re: McDonald - Urquhart & Glenmoriston
« on: Tuesday 07 September 21 15:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi DonM. I think the guy you mentioned previously, is better known to me as Commodore Alexander Grant b. abt. 1734. He would be a 1st cousin of my Hannah Grant 1717 1802, wife of Aeneas/ Angus Grant of Duldraeggan 1702 1779. He would have been close in age to Hannah's kids and probably lived near them. As mentioned, Peter Grant of Isle of Skye had fathered several illegitimate kids before marrying Janet Duldraeggan Grant 1736 1766, and John Grant of Lachine d. 1817 was one of them and probably raised at Duldraeggan with Janet's kids who were his half siblings.This Commodore Alexander Grant was a very prominent Shipper on the St Lawrence and Great Lakes, and probably gave John Grant of Lachine [who he definitely regarded as family] his start in Shipping [after the Commodore got more involved in politics], John became the most prominent Shipper, and his half brothers Peter and Donald Grant of Lachine were prominent NorWesters. J.

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Inverness / Re: McDonald - Urquhart & Glenmoriston
« on: Monday 21 June 21 11:00 BST (UK)  »
Simon Fraser Jr. the Canadian Explorer's mother was Issabella Duldraeggan Grant, a sister of my John Duldraeggan Grant 1737 1802, making Simon Jr and Honourable Alexander Grant of L'Orignal, 1st cousins, and they married McDonell sisters [daughters of Allen McDonell of Matilda Twp.].
I think I already mentioned that the Grant and McDonell, intermarried  a lot.   

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Inverness / Re: McDonald - Urquhart & Glenmoriston
« on: Monday 21 June 21 10:37 BST (UK)  »
Hi Don. That Memorial photo you sent is for a different Honourable Alexander Grant, not the one from L'Orignal. Go to FindAGrave website, find Cassburn Cemetery in Ontario, lookup all GRANT, there he is. My guy ran  Trading Post on Ottawa River called Duldraeggan Hall. His friend John MacDonell Jr. of Scotus had Trading Post downriver near Pointe Fortune, and this John's brother was Miles McDonell of Scotus, 1st Governor of Assiniboia [Manitoba] and member of HBC. The other guys were NorWesters, as were Peter Grant of Isle of Skye's sons Peter Jr. and Donald/ Duncan Grant, and their half brother John Grant of Lachine was biggest Shipper of Trading Goods, on St Lawrence and Ottawa Rivers. 
Much history here, but you have to know your Grant. Cheers      .

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Inverness / Re: McDonald - Urquhart & Glenmoriston
« on: Sunday 20 June 21 22:36 BST (UK)  »
Sorry Mr Frye. My comment was to another.
As to your advice about spitting in a cup !!! These folks are my Friends, Cousins, Neighbours, and quite capable of making their own decisions on their probable heritage.

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Inverness / Re: McDonald - Urquhart & Glenmoriston
« on: Sunday 20 June 21 22:23 BST (UK)  »
Who you are, is unknown to me. The Peter Grant of Isle of Skye, fathered John Grant of Lachine [near Montreal] d. 1817; and several others, prior to marrying Janet Duldraeggan Grant 1736 1766, mother of Peter Grant of Lachine [and 4 others].
Honourable Alexander Grant of L'Orignal [Ontario], served Parliament Upper Canada, hence the Honourable, and one of his 2 tombstones at CASSBURN Cemetery [also located L'Orignal] says Judge, though he was more likely a Justice of the Peace [as was his father, John Duldraeggan Grant 1737 1802].
What interest do you have in my family ?            J.

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Inverness / Re: McDonald - Urquhart & Glenmoriston
« on: Sunday 20 June 21 19:05 BST (UK)  »
Hi. I know of a goodly number of direct GRANT descendants of my John Duldraeggan Grant 1737 1802, of Lots 25&26 Street Road Charlottenburg Glengarry Ont. None seem interested in this Y-DNA project.
As I mentioned, my Duldraeggan bunch, were strongly aligned with their cousin McDonell, they have intermarried for 5oo+ years; including my Flora McDonell Young's 1st cousin John Roy McDonell Sr of South Branch Road aka SBR marrying his neighbour, sister of your Lewis Grey Grant Lot 13 SBR. These men, along with [my] Duncan Grant Lot 20 SBR, were on Joint Petition 1833, and all on Old UE List. J.

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Inverness / Re: McDonald - Urquhart & Glenmoriston
« on: Sunday 20 June 21 13:10 BST (UK)  »
Hi Mr Frye. I have contacted both Geoff Grant and Hank Grant, of GRANT Y-DNA project, and am unaware that any Duldraeggan Grant Y-DNA has ever been submitted. Please state from whom, and file number, if you know it.
You state above "... after their common ancestor (John the Tutor)..."; which you apparently take to be the direct ancestor of BOTH the Craskie and Duldraeggan Grant lines, and this might not be so.
I think that Duncan Grant 1630 1730, was the 1st Grant to hold Wadset of Duldraeggan; probably aided by his wife's [Catherine McDonell] father Donald McDonell 8th Chief of Glengarry Scotland; and Duncan's Heir at Law was his greatgrandson [my] Aeneas/ Angus Grant of Duldraeggan 1702 1779.
By the way, Donald McDonell 8th Chief of Glengarry, is the Progenitor of the McDonell lines we know as Leek, Collachie, Aberchalder, Ardnabie, Scotus, Lundie ... . Cheers       J.

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Scotland / Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« on: Monday 03 May 21 16:45 BST (UK)  »
Hi All, including Joy. The  8th  Chief of Glengarry Scotland, Donald McDonell, married daughter  of  9th  Chief of Clan Ranald  [a  MacDonald], and  their sons headed the McDonell  lines [that  we in Glengarry  Ontario Canada, still refer  to as]  Leek,  Collachie, Aberchalder, Ardnabie,  Scotus, Lundie, etc.,  McDonell lines. These were  Catholic [many  were  Officers  at Culloden], and emigrated enmass to  NY, in 1773 on Ship  "Pearl", later [after  Rev  War]  resettled Glengarry Ontario.  This  Donald McDonell 8th Chief Glengarry, had daughter Catherine McDonell who married Duncan Grant 1630 1730,  who was 1st  GRANT to hold  Wadset of  Duldraeggan Glenmoriston  [he was Protestant]  and  when this  Duncan   died  in  1730, the Courts declared  his great-grandson  Aeneas/  Angus Grant 1702   1779 to be his Heir at Law.  This Aeneas/ Angus  Grant  was married to Hannah Grant  1717 1801,  mentioned   in Joy's earlier  Post. I believe Aeneas/ Angus'  brother was John  Roy Grant b. abt. 1704,  was Transported to Caribbean  and probably did  not  return,  but  fathered Joy's  Alexander Grant [and Donald  Grant Sr.  Lot  13 SBR]. This  makes  these McDonell and Grant cousins  who  intermarried often.  Cheers J.                               

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Inverness / Re: McDonald - Urquhart & Glenmoriston
« on: Tuesday 02 March 21 15:46 GMT (UK)  »
Recently, we have found two sons of my John Duldraeggan  Grant b. 1737 d. 1802 Lots   25&26    SSSRR, they lived at  L'Orignal  Upper Canada  Longueil  Twp. They are Honourable Alexander Grant of  L'Orignal who was a  Judge and Member  of Parliament,  operated Fur Trading Post called Duldraeggan Hall, and his brother Peter Grant of L'Orignal [probably also  lived at  Duldraeggan Hall]. This  Peter died   1811 [both these brothers  buried at  CASSBURN  Cemetery], and brother   Honourable Alexander produced Peter's WILL   at  Montreal in 1812 [WILL listed  piddling sums to surviving sisters  and illegitimate children], the bulk of  monies,  to go  to Honourable  Alexander.  I think  the Courts  were  Suspect  of this   WILL,  and forwarded  it to London England, where it was processed  in 1817. Other researchers have misread this WILL of Peter  Grant  of Longueil Upper Canada, and placed him erroneously  at Longueil Lower  Canada [near  Montreal].                         

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