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Thank you Neale1961. That was brilliant.

Apology first for the wrong abbreviation for Simon Perrott. I meant to write 'bur' not 'b'. I hadn't found his birth in Aldsworth because (for various reasons) I'm working from the Bishop's Transcripts. Aldsworth is missing 1744. Interestingly the Bishop's Transcripts for Northleach show no William Parrott baptised in 1781. There's a William baptised in 1780 (December 17) and a Mary baptised in 1783 (February 23) but I find no Parrott on what is obviously a continuous transcript for the whole of 1781.

So the Parrotts living in 1841 at Winterwell Cottage, Northleach, were first cousins. Thomas, born 1779, says something interesting about the descriptions used in the early censuses. The 1841 census (if I remember correctly) describes him (then unmarried) as a farmer. However, in the 1851 census, by which time he was retired, he is described simply as an agricultural labourer. He is also given then as a widower. He evidently married an Ann Price in 1845, who was a recent widow of a Robert Price, also an agricultural labourer. Like Thomas, Robert was also about 20 years her senior. She died in 1849 and he (Thomas) lived on until 1854 with only a housekeeper. I'd always thought (perhaps not unreasonably) that the men referred to on those early census returns as 'Agricultural Labourers' - this includes many of my forebears - were poor folk. But evidently some of them must have had enough resources to attract new wives, to accommodate relatives, and to keep household servants. Describing Thomas as an agricultural labourer might have been doing him an injustice, particularly when you look at the quality of his headstone.

Now back to the records....


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Thanks!
The starting point I'm interested in is the 1841 census entry for the household of Thomas Perrott at Winterwell Cottage, Northleach. There are four people in the entry: Thomas (b. 1779 in Northleach), Catherine Perrott (b. 1781), Edith Perrott (b. 1779), and Edith Brown (my g-g-g-grandmother, b. Edith Parrott in 1803). Catherine and Edith Perrott were unmarried great-aunts of Edith Brown, the daughters of Simon Perrott (b. ca 1816) and Mary Turner, who were married in 1772 in Aldsworth.
So far I've been unable to locate any family link between Thomas and (Catherine and Edith Perrott).
Any ideas?

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I'm researching the Parrott family from about 4-6 generations ago (mid 18th century to mid 19th century), centred in Gloucestershire. The problem I'm getting is the great variety of spellings. There were also a lot of Parrotts there. A veritable flock! Often-repeated first names are Simon (or Simeon), Thomas, William, Edith, Sarah, Esther, Mary and Catherine.
All help, and any links, will be greatly appreciated

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Durham / Re: Old Row, and Cliff Terrace
« on: Tuesday 18 November 14 09:22 GMT (UK)  »
Dear keyboard86 and stan

You guys are nothing short of brilliant. Thank you!

John

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Durham / Old Row, and Cliff Terrace
« on: Monday 17 November 14 20:24 GMT (UK)  »
I'm looking for indications as to where two streets were in Sunderland:

1) Old Row: this is recorded on the 1851 census as being in All Saints Ecclesiastical District, Monkwearmouth

2) Cliff Terrace: this is recorded on the 1881 census as being in St Barnabas Ecclesiastical District, Bishopwearmouth

AIGR (All information gratefully received)

John

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Durham / Re: Hodgsons Buildings
« on: Monday 17 November 14 20:17 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Brian

Thanks for the advice for Westcott Terrace. In fact I've managed to find it on the 1914 map given on http://www.durham-images.org. It's the furthest northeast part of Brandling Street, and numbers downwards from 25 Westcott Terrace going south from the Givens Street intersection. And it's on Google Earth, so I can see where my grandmother lived at the time of her wedding.

Thanks again!

mfG

John

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Durham / Re: Hodgsons Buildings
« on: Wednesday 12 November 14 09:40 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Brian

Thank you so much!

The attached oblique aerial shot from 1928 shows that the southern part of Hodgson's Buildings had already been demolished by then.

You're obviously a Sunderland man, so do you have any idea where Westcott Terrace was? My grandmother, Mary Ellen Miller, was living there at the time of her marriage to Charles William Saunders (1902). It was evidently demolished early too, as there is no record of it on the 1956 street index.

AIGR

John

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Durham / Re: Hodgsons Buildings
« on: Friday 07 November 14 15:14 GMT (UK)  »
My grandfather, Charles William Saunders, was born in 1873 in 8 Hodgson's Buildings. I would be interested to know if anyone knows how the buildings were numbered. For instance, what number did the only existing building (the cafe) have?
I've attached an 1860 map overlain (roughly) onto modern Google Earth. It seems that Hodgson's Buildings was then on both sides of the street parallel to Edmonson's Street. It had a 'B.H.' at one end (is this 'bath house'?), with a Primitive Methodist Chapel next door to that.
AIGR (all information gratefully received)
John

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