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The Common Room / Re: Ralph Lewis Gilberne Butler 1883-1967
« on: Sunday 07 September 25 08:31 BST (UK)  »
Nice find! Knowing it was in Roquebrune not Menton proper the marriage record can be found in the departmental archives

https://archives06.fr/ark:/79346/ec4d9dec8ef0bf79ef07325d2776c3bd39/img:02E_0864_00104

He is listed as resident Petit Saconnex, Swizterland.  She was resident in Roquebrune with her father.

Violet and her father and sister can be seen together on the 1931 census here:
https://archives06.fr/ark:/79346/619e86be867dbbbfed7a0f708b83072e/img:06M_0186_0009

OK this is absolutely amazing. I have never delved into French archives before and am so impressed. I have at least two other subjects who were living in France between the wars and will now try to track them down as well.
Very many thanks to both of you.

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The Common Room / Re: Ralph Lewis Gilberne Butler 1883-1967
« on: Sunday 07 September 25 08:28 BST (UK)  »
Serge De KAZARINE and Violet C WHITE 3 1920 St Martin 1A 1536

Violet C De KAZARINE and Ralph BUTLER 1931-1935 Menton, France vol 25 page 228
(GRO Consular Marriages )

Serge married again in 1928 so presumably there was a divorce.

Looks possible.

This is simply amazing! Thank you so much. Also, this is a brand new website to me, so interesting in its own right.

See col 4

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k4558267q/f11.item.r=(prOx:%20%22violet%22%205%20%22kazarine%22).zoom

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The Common Room / Re: Ralph Lewis Gilberne Butler 1883-1967
« on: Saturday 06 September 25 07:38 BST (UK)  »
I wonder if these are both his military service:
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1064199
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D1669783


I also suspect he might be the author of this item:
https://archive.org/details/neweasterneurope0000ralp/page/n5/mode/2up

As well as the translator here:
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015004879378&seq=7

Thank you so much for this! I was going to look up his service record today. You are of course right on all three suggestions.

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The Common Room / Re: Ralph Lewis Gilberne Butler 1883-1967
« on: Saturday 06 September 25 07:37 BST (UK)  »

Hi,

In case you want them her divorce records are available here,

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8051285

Regards,
Daisy

Thank you Daisy! Yes, I will look them up just for interest.

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The Common Room / Re: Ralph Lewis Gilberne Butler 1883-1967
« on: Friday 05 September 25 07:16 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for the new contributions! Violet sounds a fascinating character. I don't have access to the Times archive but that's an impressive haul!

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The Common Room / Re: Ralph Lewis Gilberne Butler 1883-1967
« on: Thursday 04 September 25 17:58 BST (UK)  »
 ;D OK now I feel better (butter)

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The Common Room / Re: Ralph Lewis Gilberne Butler 1883-1967
« on: Thursday 04 September 25 17:37 BST (UK)  »
Jen, how did you find that, or more correctly why didn't I? Oh, you have made my evening. Many thanks.
I think sometimes when you've been looking too long you go sort of blind ...

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The Common Room / Re: Ralph Lewis Gilberne Butler 1883-1967
« on: Thursday 04 September 25 17:25 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Christine!
Yes this is the right man -- I found a reference to the marriage in Wikigen but couldn't trace it. This is the explanation. Many thanks.

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The Common Room / Ralph Lewis Gilberne Butler 1883-1967
« on: Thursday 04 September 25 14:23 BST (UK)  »
This man comes from a wealthy family and had a successful career as an interpreter/translator and journalist. However, I can find virtually no actual documents relating to him! I have a birth and a death record, one census entry (1891) and details of an arrest in 1916. I can't find him in any other censuses. I know he got married but can't find any record of it happening.
Of course I suspect part of the problem if not all of it is because 'Ralph Butler' is quite a common name but I'm also wondering if he preferred to be known by some other name.
This is really just a rant of frustration but if anyone feels like digging around and finds anything, it would be much appreciated!
Ok, will take a deep breath ...

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