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London and Middlesex / Re: A vanished Central Criminal Court case in November 1916
« on: Friday 27 February 26 14:41 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for contributing. The newspaper reports state that Butler booked the rooms on the several occasions when he and Rohan met, and he was the older, so I don't think he would have been seen as a naive victim.

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London and Middlesex / Re: A vanished Central Criminal Court case in November 1916
« on: Friday 27 February 26 12:25 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you all for replying. I'm most grateful.

Both the Westminster & Pimlico News and the Chelsea News reported on the original court hearings with plenty of detail, should someone come across this thread in the future and want to check them out.
 
I was very interested but surprised to hear from AntonyMMM that the sentence was simply to be 'of good behaviour' for a year. This seems remarkably lenient in comparison with other cases I've researched.

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London and Middlesex / Re: A vanished Central Criminal Court case in November 1916
« on: Thursday 26 February 26 18:54 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you so much for replying. I don't have any experience for investigating civil legal proceedings,  and someone else put me on to this case. They gave me the info about Old Bailey as I quoted it, so I just assumed it was correct.
Can you give me a citation for the after-trial calendar information? I'm confused by what it says. Does that mean that judgment wouldn't happen if Butler didn't hear anything within 12 months? He'd pleaded guilty, so surely he must have been liable to some punishment? As I'm sure you're aware at this time the maximum sentence was two years with hard labour, and I've had men with anything from 3 months to the full two years, with or without the hard labour. It seems very odd if Butler could just walk away?
Apologies for so many questions, but I'm just really puzzled!

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London and Middlesex / A vanished Central Criminal Court case in November 1916
« on: Thursday 26 February 26 16:49 GMT (UK)  »
Ralph Lewis Gilburne Butler was charged with 'gross indecency' (homosexual acts) with Martin Rohan and appeared in the Westminster Police Court in September and October 1916. (I give his full name but he was apparently charged without his two middle names.) Butler had been a Fellow of Corpus Christi College, Cambridge, before the war, and then served in the Corps of Interpreters until invalided out in 1915. He was employed in the Foreign Office in 1916. The case was sent up to the Old Bailey (Central Criminal Court) on 3 Nov 1916, but thereafter I can't find any more. After the war Butler continued to work as a translator and interpreter for the government and also published books on international topics.
Can anyone suggest what might have happened to the Old Bailey case?

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United States of America / Re: Henry Mader Pitt, American actor
« on: Friday 13 February 26 16:25 GMT (UK)  »
You've been tremendous!
This is all a very minor side road from a side road of my main research project, so I'm quite keen to get through it now and get back to business ...

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United States of America / Re: Henry Mader Pitt, American actor
« on: Thursday 12 February 26 17:16 GMT (UK)  »
You've done so much, it's amazing! Many, many thanks.
As you say, it looks as though the Pitt family was not untypical of many others -- trying to make it in showbusiness is tough and always has been, even if you have some useful connections. Fanny's father determinedly promoted both his daughters, repeatedly giving them major roles.
You may be interested to know that their brother Claude was clearly a very different kind of person. He joined the Inland Revenue in 1866 and stayed there for the rest of his working life!
However, his son Guy did go on the stage, albeit with limited success.

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United States of America / Re: Henry Mader Pitt, American actor
« on: Thursday 12 February 26 12:02 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you SO MUCH (now get some sleep!)

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United States of America / Re: Henry Mader Pitt, American actor
« on: Thursday 12 February 26 11:35 GMT (UK)  »
T. W. Robertson's plays were much admired not only for their plots, but also for their realistic stage effects. An example from Wikipedia -- note the snow blowing in through the door as the man enters at the left --

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United States of America / Re: Henry Mader Pitt, American actor
« on: Thursday 12 February 26 11:26 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Alan! That's brilliant!

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