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London and Middlesex / Re: Looking for Viola Ruth Sprey-Smith
« on: Thursday 16 February 17 13:45 GMT (UK)  »
Apparently the mother of Herbert's illegitimate son was Violet Ruth Gunthorpe. The surname Gordon may have been Violet's sister's married name.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Looking for Viola Ruth Sprey-Smith
« on: Thursday 16 February 17 13:40 GMT (UK)  »
I just received my Ancestry DNA estimate and found something interesting. One of the matches was to a person whose tree includes a Herbert Claude Gordon son of Herbert George Ponting(1st. cousin 1x removed to me).

Herbert Claude Gordon:
Birth 21 Aug 1914
Brighton, Sussex, England
Marriage 31 july 1936 to Kathleen Farrell
Sutton, Surrey, England

Interesting

Ian Ponting

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London and Middlesex / Re: Looking for Viola Ruth Sprey-Smith
« on: Thursday 16 February 17 13:32 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Lesley Paul on Thursday 16 January 14 21:18 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone

Thank you for your replies.  We had already found Viola's marriage to Albert Edward Brownrigg-Fyers.  However, the maiden name she was fictitious!  There is no record of a Violet Ruth Moncrieffe.  She also gives her father's name as Phillip Moncrieffe, again there is record of a Phillip Moncrieffe.  Who she really is is Violet Ruth Gunthorpe born 1892 in Herefordshire, daughter of John & Louisa.  Violet gave birth to an illegitimate son, born at The Metropole Hotel, Brighton in August 1914.  According to the family his father was Herbert Ponting, the photographer of the Antartic Expedition.  Violet did not keep the child, she left him with her sister, Doris Todd and her husband Charles.

Violet disappears until 1918 when she marries Edward Albert Brownrigg-Fyers.  She gives birth 3 months later to a daughter.  She again disappears, leaving the baby with her husband's parents, until she marries Cecil Sprey-Smith in 1922. Cecil was from a Colonial family.  He was a Capt in the Army and then a professional tennis player/coach.

As you an imagine this woman is driving me mad! :)

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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Re: Susannah PONTIN
« on: Saturday 18 October 14 16:20 BST (UK)  »
Victoria Agatha May Ponting appears to be a 3rd. cousin.
Suzannah Ponting is 4th. Great Grandmother
Henry Harding Ponting mentioned earlier(is my 3rd. Great Grandfather, he had children with Anne Ponting). Henry Hardings Pontings Grandfather (William Pontn m Susannah Baster is Anne Pontings 2nd. Great Grandfather. Anne does have an interesting past. I can find no record of Anne Ponting formalizing her marriage to Henry Harding Ponting. If anyone has more information please post here.

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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Re: Susannah PONTIN
« on: Saturday 18 October 14 16:05 BST (UK)  »
I haven't checked this chat for some time. I would be interested in any information you have for the Pontin(g) line. I have now focused my research on Susannah Pontin b1757 d1817. Susannah had two baseborn sons(Henry Harding Ponting and William Ponting) Some of her son's descendants reverted to the Harding(e) surname. Susannah apparently was in the employ of the Marquess of Aylesbury at Tottenham court(present Earl I see in the news is having financial difficulties). I have checked online summaries of Aylesbury papers and came across some correspondence mentioning a George Hardinge and thought that there may be a connection to my 3rd. Great Grandfather Henry Harding Ponting. There appears to be no mention of significance of Tottenham staff. My research is on Ancestry as PontingsCanada(July2014).

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