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I have on file this information Charles T Lewis, Carpenter of Collingwood
died on the 22/10/1880 and that probate was
granted to Bessie B Cameron.

Bessie was Charles and Elizabeths first born

The record found for bessie birth is as follows

Gender    Unknown
Bessie Barnard Lewis
Born   1856
Forest CK (creek?)
Victoria
Father Charles Thomas
Mother Betsey Anna (yet another name change,this lady had serious personality disorder)
Reg no 5989

Thanks Sharon.
It seems to me that there is no way to know that Thomas Russell POWER was the father of all or some or which of the children.

Supposing he fathered the four children up to 1865, (Harry) and assuming- as it cannot be located - there was no marriage to Elizabeth BERNARD in 1860 or any other time, then the marriage he made with Kate Ann O'BRIEN was perfectly legitimate.

Elizabeth gave the information regarding Thomas, his whereabouts and occupation to the state authorities when the children went to care. I suspect it is fictitious.

Her ongoing use of the name POWER when registering the births of her children means nothing. Perhaps she just  wanted them to all have the same surname to save face.

Sue

 

I am of the same opinion,she does come across as a troubled soul.  I have seen (and will dig deeper) that over here in the UK she was in a workhouse at the age of 11.  There are some heartbreaking parts to researching,I have discovered that my GGGM Mary Louise and her daughter Laura both suffered a stillbirth within 6 years of each other,My relative in Australia has visited the graves.

Sharon

Hi Sue
The information was given to me via another forum.  Elizabeth Ann, Anne or Hannah Bernard registered the later children as Power but that does not mean that he fathered them as mentioned in the same post on here some of the later children had Morrish as a middle name and there was a Martin Morrish in the area at the time.  Elizabeth does not seem to be the most honest or stable of people.  I have no reason to doubt the information given the poster that helped me is good.  I will have a dig through my work later and see what is there.

I can see no trace of the other children haven been taken into care, Louisa and Laura were both back in care in 1874 which is the same year as the birth of the last of the 3 later children. I have Mary Louisa' life pretty much worked out as she is a direct relative

Sharon.

Thomas Hambley has himself as comming from Wales England,but I do wonder if the "Wales" was misheard due to not being able to find a birth for him in Wales,There are lots of Hambley' in Somerset so i did wonder if infact it was "wells".  He has himself aged 33 at the time of marriage of 8th June 1889 in Fitzroy,His father is Thomas and mother Eliza (maiden name not clear) looks like it begins with an H or K looking at the writing on the rest of the cert.  The only info we have is what is on the certificate,that and he fathered my great grandfather Claude.  He abandoned mary and claude according to the trove article the intent to remarry from "Louie Hambley"

If the image above is no good,let me know and I can send the full document via email.
Many Thanks Sharon.

Hi
I have downloaded and copied as much as possible.  I have a copy of a marriage certificate for Mary Louisa Creech and Thomas Hambley but it is very hard to read in places.  Do you know if it is possible that victoria bmd would be able to have a look at the original and clear up some difficult to read parts?
I am having problems reading the maiden name of Thomas' mum Eliza.

Thanks
Sharon.