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Antrim / Re: ISRAEL MILLIKEN, Belfast
« on: Tuesday 07 October 25 14:43 BST (UK)  »
Hi all, I see my name is mentioned earlier in this thread I was not aware all these years  :-[
Just to clarify a number of items, I am not directly descended from Israel Milliken but my Mothers Grandmother did inherit a large box of gold coins from his estate and each week she would cash in a coin and would spend it on her friends each weekend.
Israel's exploits in the rebellion were clearly detailed in a book called “The Pikemen of ’98” which can be found in digital form online, but that book confusingly referred to Thomas as the father of Israel?  I put this down to the fact that “The Pikemen” was written 60 years after the event and memories might have been dimmed or confused.
In the North Belfast News, Joe Baker published an article recounting the memories of John Smyth from about 1900 , wherein he remembered his earliest years in Belfast.  He described a Milliken who was a United Irishman but I feel he is describing Thomas rather than Israel!  The Cotton Mill on Waring Street was sold about 1800 after Thomas’s death.
“In one of the houses (in Waring Street) lived a man, Isaac Milliken, whose career in life was as chequered as it was varied, and who, in adversity and declining years, maintained to the last the sturdiness of the Presbyterian and the independence of the Volunteer. He had a large cotton factory in Waring Street, and his position enabled him to take a prominent part of the transactions of the day.  Fortune frowned on him and a subscription raised by one of our most honoured merchants solaced his last days.”
The Belfast Newsletter of 1st May 1797 recorded;
"This morning, eleven prisoners, under charges of High Treason, were sent off for Dublin, from the Artillery barracks here, guarded by a very strong detachment of the 22nd regiment of light dragoons, viz:

Joseph CUTHBERT,       Taylor
John GORDON,               Woolen Draper
Alexander GORDON,       Woolen Draper
Thomas STOREY,        Printer
Felix O'NEAL,               Schoolmaster
Patrick CLEERY,        Clerk to Mr. SPEERS
William DAVISON
Robert BLACK,               Publican
Alexander ESLAR,      Publican
Israel MILLIKIN,       Clerk to Mr. Sampson CLARK, Hatter 
Robert REDFIRN,       Sadler"
A number of those listed above were definitely United Irishmen and Thomas Storey was the printer of the Northern Star, the newspaper of the organisation.  He was later hanged.

It should be noted that at the time of his arrest Israel was working for Sampson Clarke in the Hatters Shop and as a bookkeeper.  Clarke also petitioned for Israel’s release from jail and declared that the prisoner expressed an intention of going to America.
After release from jail Israel seems to have continued without a stain on his character and became a well known and loved local character.  It’s worth noting he had two streets named in his honour; Israel Street on the Shankill and Milliken Street on the Falls.
In 1805 (at least by 1813) Israel had opened his main business, which was a “private steam baths and Vapor rooms” at 91 Peters Hill.
In 1831 the first stone was laid for an impressive memorial for William Orr of Ballycarry in the Temple Corran churchyard.  Israel Milliken of Belfast was named on the memorial as the Treasurer of the Masonic Lodge Committee that raised the funds.  William Orr was a famous United Irishman and this is one expression of his abiding sympathy and support for the failed rebellion and its participants.  He is elsewhere described as a benefactor for various former participants of the rebellion up to his death.  It should be noted that the definitive book describing the leaders of the rebellion (published in 1846 by RR Madden ) included interviews with Jemmy Hope, which were conducted at Israel’s home at Brown Square.
In Mary Ann McCracken’s letters to Dr Madden she refers to Jemmy Hope who died in 1853, whereupon she and old Israel Milliken – “a former United Irishman, now crippled with rheumatism and just able to get to his easy chair by the fire” – arranged for the erection of the headstone in the little burying-ground at Mallusk, Co. Antrim, Dr Madden being called upon to write the inscription.


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Antrim / Re: family of Edward Kirkwood from Belfast married Mary Lyle
« on: Thursday 13 December 12 20:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Mary
Found the following snippet from a newspaper dated July 1893, could this be your Eliza Kirkwood, as this would give you an earlier address.
"Mortimer Jones was charged with fraud for having obtained money from Robert Chestnut, of 13 Chambers
Street, by claiming his niece was dead. He also told this story to Eliza Kirkwood of 54 Percy Street, who gave him £1. He was returned for trial at the Assizes."
Hope it helps.
Gary

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Down / Re: Millikens of Ravara
« on: Wednesday 10 August 11 22:32 BST (UK)  »
Hi again Millikkan
Found lots of old notes and will send you an e-mail with directions to the old house. 
I refer you back to my message of 21 Feb 06 for a summary of what happened to the family around Saintfield.  You might also check out the family grave at the 2nd Presbyterian Church in Saintfield with the gravestone dedicated to his parents by William James.  It is easy to find, just enter the front gate of the church and turn to your right and the Milliken grave is the large railed enclosure that occupies the corner.
Since that time I have made contact with two guys who are related to this family and I shall try to contact them.  William James had an older brother called Thomas Shephard Milliken, he left the farm and established himself first in Holywood and then in Belfast where he became Manager of the Irish Times.  He eventually died in 1903.  It is two of his great grandsons that I know.
Speak to you soon.
Gary

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Down / Re: Millikens of Ravara
« on: Monday 08 August 11 23:25 BST (UK)  »
Hi Milikkan
Please bear with me and I shall get the story for you.  Yes, I found the homestead and the final residence of the family near Saintfield.  Unfortunately all the information is on another pc which I have to get working again.  I have pictures and a bit more information for you.
Will speak to you soon.
Gary

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Down / Re: Millikens of Ravara
« on: Thursday 04 August 11 12:42 BST (UK)  »
Hi Milikkan and Aghadowey
As it happens I have been rather distracted by current family affiars ::)  recently and haven't had much time to look at Milliken researching but am back from holiday and hopefully will get back to it.   In the interim my laptop has died which had many of my notes on it, hopefully I have them backed up properly.
Will be back in touch soon when I get myself together.
Gary

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Down / Re: Donaghadee lookups?
« on: Wednesday 07 January 09 13:26 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Rob

According the the www.glenravelonline.com "Belfast Timelines" there is the following newspaper story.

"June 1865.  Six men drowned in a yacht accident on Belfast Lough near Greypoint.  The names of the deceased were: Mr Andrew Gilmore, Pakenham Place and his son, a boy under 14 years of age; Mr Richard Allen, Canning Street, assistant engineer to the Harbour Commissioners; Mr Mathers, block and pump maker, Pilot Street; Mr Graham, foreman in Mr Mathers establishment; and a boatman named Hawkins.  Only the bodies of Mr Mathers and Mr Gilmore were found."

No further details but this story might be worth investigating as there are several seemingly important people involved.

Gary

As it happens, in the Register of Shankill Parish Belfast (1745-61) there are several Hawkins recorded which might be worth keeping on file.

29 May 1746 Ann Mitchell baptised, son of William (of Mill St) and Grace nee Hawkins.
25 Dec 1748 James Mitchell baptised, son of William and Grace nee Hawkins.
22 Dec 1750 Jon Mitchell baptised, son of William and Grace nee Hawkins.
13 Jan 1750 Abel Hawkis baptised, son of Barnaby Hawkis and Jane nee McClannon.

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Down / Donaghadee lookups?
« on: Wednesday 07 January 09 12:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Rob

Any chance of connections to Belfast? After all it is not so far away from Donaghadee!

In the Cliften Street Cemetery Register there are a number of Hawkins burials recorded.

5 Feb 1849 Mary Anne Hawkins (aged 2) of measles.  She was the child of William Hawkins of Lagan Street.  Born in Belfast.

That would make William 1st 37/8 when the child was born or William 2nd would have been 16? when the child was born.  It is interesting to speculate that the child may have been named after William's wife.

14 Sept 1854 John Hawkins (aged 18 months) of measles.  He was the child of William Hawkins of 22 Grace Street.  Born in Belfast

27 Dec 1860 Unbaptised child of William Hawkins, it was a premature birth.  William was living at 22 Great Edward Street.  Born in Belfast.

These three children were all buried in the same grave at Platform D Grave Number 46.

Also

2 Sept 1849 George Hawkens (aged 41) of decline.  Described as a pensioner of 20 Shankhill Road.

Could this be a brother of William?

Gary

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Down / Re: Land and Their Owners in County Down
« on: Thursday 04 December 08 14:06 GMT (UK)  »
Hi NewGent

You might want to check out the "Belfast Timelines" at www.glenravel.com which are a collection of newspaper stories from those days. 

"Nov 1842 Thomas McMaster, Samuel Boyle and James Nicholl were charged with wilfully and maliciously conspiring to set fire to houses in Stephen Street and McMasters Court with intent to defraud the County Fire Insurance Company.  They were sent to the Spring Assizes."

"Jan 1859 A woman named McMaster (Agnes) was charged by her husband for the eighth time with being drunk and using abusive and onscene language.  She was sent to prison for two months."

"Dec 1867 A woman names Sarah McMaster met her death by a cart driven by a man named McCann....."

"July 1868 An inquest was held.....of a 50 year old woman named Margaret McMaster who allegedly died form the effects of the violence of her husband".

It is worth a look.

Gary

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Down / Re: Waugh/Brown; Shankill c. 1830s
« on: Tuesday 25 November 08 13:31 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Brian

Check out the "Belfast Timelines" at www.glenravel.com you will find many Waughs in these extracts from local newspapers.

"Dec 1843 Thomas Waugh, aged 19, in the employment of Messers J Boyd and Company, flaxspinning Mill, cashed a cheque for £300 an the Bank of Ireland and later withdrew £500 from the Belfast Bank.  He then left Belfast on the Fleetwood boat."

"May 1848 A fire broke out in North Queen Street at the bakehouse of Mr Waugh adjoining the Constabulary Barracks....."

"Nov 1853 The range of houses in Victoria Street, known as Victoria Buildings only a few years erected, was consumed by fire.  One of the houses, owned by Mr Joseph Waugh Grocer, was completely gutted."

There are others over the years.

Hope this helps

Gary

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