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The Common Room / Re: Government Find a Will Service
« on: Friday 21 November 25 15:12 GMT (UK)  »
Ah, I see. I was hoping for some kind of season ticket arrangement. But who needs that bulk access? I quess you only pay for what you take

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The Common Room / Re: Government Find a Will Service
« on: Friday 21 November 25 11:31 GMT (UK)  »
There's mention of a new "bulk access" fee. If this is set at a reasonable level I could cope, but I expect it will be set in the £1000's

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Denbighshire / Re: Jacob Davies Rhosllanercrugog
« on: Monday 29 September 14 17:00 BST (UK)  »
I was pretty sure these were right.
I'm the grandson of Jacob(jnr)'s son Alfred, via my father Harold (he's still interested in all this at the age of 94).

In the past I've found Findmypast almost impossible to use, but took advantage of a recent 'month for a pound' offer to scan through the Denbighsire  BMD parish records.

Jacob snr does appear a bit erratic - as well as the apparent separation from Mary, I found two business partnerships dissolved - Davies and Savage Brick Manufacturers in 1861 and the Pant Brick Tile and Fireclay  Co in 1871.

I'm still intrigued by where all these people were in 1851 - given the birth of Louisa in Ireland, it's possible they all headed over there - the timing is right for when they were trying to start a coal mining industry in northern Ireland.

I'm pretty sure Isabella is the baptized Belafina - and intriguingly there is an Isabella Davies, aged 15, in Ruabon in 1851, described as, as far as I can decipher "daughter of wife". But there is no wife, only  John Lloyd - and two more Davies children - Benjamin 13 and Jane 9 (also son and daughter of wife). This could well be irrelevant.

If you PM me your e-mail I can send you copies of the other baptism

Thanks   (I think this makes us second cousins)


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Denbighshire / Re: Jacob Davies Rhosllanercrugog
« on: Sunday 28 September 14 19:24 BST (UK)  »
I'm pretty sure this is the same Jacob - he was my great great grandfather. The others would be his siblings. Obadiah too went on to be a brickmaker. And it seems unlikely there were multiple John and Mary Davies, brick makers, with sons named Jacob born around the same time.

I've (unsurprisingly perhaps) heard the lunatic asylum aspect before - do you have a date for that?

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Denbighshire / Re: Jacob Davies Rhosllanercrugog
« on: Sunday 28 September 14 13:23 BST (UK)  »
From Denbighshire baptisms, Davies:


Louisa          4 Aug 1822  Jacob and Mary Labourer   Chirk
William Walter  6 Jul 1823  Jacob and Mary Brickmaker Acrefair
Obadiah        17 Oct 1824  Jacob and Mary Brickmaker Chirk
Mary Anne      18 Feb 1827  Jacob and Mary Brickmaker Acrefair
Jacob           2 Aug 1829  Jacob and Mary Brickmaker Acrefair
Belafina        7 Feb 1836  Jacob and Mary Brickmaker of Acrefair - I suspect this is the mysterious Isabella

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