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Selkirkshire / Re: Swanston(e)
« on: Sunday 06 November 05 13:43 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Swanny

My husband and I made a trip to Toronto last week and on our way home we stopped in at the Farnham Cemetery and found the tombstone for Sibbley Orme nee Swanston.  She is buried there with her husband James and Peter and his wife Jane are on the same tombstone.  Took a picture of it. 

Haven't had time for much research lately.  I'll keep in touch if I find anything more out.  Great to know that they are in the Historical Atlas.  Since we reside in the same County as Puslinch my inlaws have the Atlas.  I am going to check it out myself sometime this week.  Thanks again for the info.

SusanJane

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Selkirkshire / Re: Swanston(e)
« on: Thursday 27 October 05 00:19 BST (UK)  »
Dear Swanny

My husband and I have seen the original log house that Andrew built.  A gentleman from Burlington bought the property and restored the log house, barn and blacksmith shop.  One of Andrew's sons became a blacksmith.  If you ever get to Holstein you should visit him.  we just stopped in and ended up chatting for an hour and a half.  We also drove by the James Swanston brick house.  It is still standing.  It is huge.  Went to the family history center today and did some research.  It is going to take me a few days to sift through the information.  I am not retired yet so I have to be careful not to spend too much time at it and neglect my family.  We have four children, three still at home.  I call it my cheap addiction. 

Isabella, Andrew's daughter married William Horsburgh.  The two boys, Andrew and William moved to California.  Margaret never married and John lived with Margaret until he tragically drowned in 1915.  I think it was Andrew Jr that was the blacksmith.  John's obituary is as follows:

The story of the tragic death of Mr. John Swanston is told by our orchard correspondent.  Coroner c. a. Jones, M.D., of Mount Forest was notified, but on enquiring into the circumstances he decided that an inquest was unnecessary.  The report of this death under such terrible circumstances, was a great shock to the whole community where he was widely known and universally esteemed for his probity, piety and kindliness.  deceased was a son of the late Andrew swanston and was born some sixty years ago on the homestead near Holstein where he lived until he retired a few years ago to live in Holstein.  He later took over the mill at Orchard from mr. Dodds and only last fall he removed to Orchard.  The reatest sympathy is extended to his sister, miss Swanston, who had been his life asociate.  He leaves another sister, Mres. Wm. Horsburgh, Egremont and two brother, andrew andWilliam in California.  etc...  the rest is about the funeral.

Found an entry today, but have to research it futher

Dumfries: Annan-Parish censuses 1801 - 1821

Marriages
Populationof the Parish of Annan
Bent
County:  Dumfries
Country:  Scotland
336 Peter Graham I margaret irving Joseph Graham Nicholas Graham (fem)

Suspect this is the right family since Nicholas for a female name is so rare. 

SusanJane

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Selkirkshire / Re: Swanston(e)
« on: Wednesday 26 October 05 03:21 BST (UK)  »
Dear Swanny

Nicholas Swanston married Charles Coultes in Oct. 1861 down in Eramosa township.  The Coultes's were from Nassagaweya the township below Eramosa.  The Coultes family included newly married Charles and Nicholas moved to Morris township soon after she married Charles.  By 1878 they have moved back to Egremont as their next few children are born there.  By 1881 they have moved to the Manitoulin Island.  What is really neat is that my great grandmother was Sibitha Anne Coultes.  I always wondered where a name like that would come from but the 1841 census of the Galashiels in Scotland listed the four brothers John (our ancestor), Andrew, George, Walter and Sibblea.  Nicholas was named after her grandmother Nicholas Irving and  Nicholas named her first girl after her Aunt Sibblea.  The Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid returns a Sibbley buried in the Farnham cemetery in Puslinch township which is where the brothers emigrated to when they first came to Canada.  When my kids have their next orthodontist appointment in Guelph I am going to go and check out the tombstone.  I am pretty sure that this is John Swanston's sister. 

John Swanston's parents are Isabel Sommerville and Andrew Swanston.  On the 1841 census the four brothers and the sister (Andrew and Isabel's children) are in a single household but no parents.  Isabel is listed living with Walter in Eramosa on the 1861 census.  She obviously emigrated to Canada with the boys but there is no mention of Andrew.  Can't find either of them on the 1841 census in Scotland in the area that the kids are living.  Do you know what happend to Andrew Swanston?

Here is what else I have found.  Elizabeth Beck's parents are Nicholas Irving and James Beck.  she was born 4 Mar 1814 in "Johnstone By Lockerbie, Dumfries, Scotland"

John Beck - parents Andrew Swanston and Isabel Sommerville.  born 8 may 1808 Glashiels, Selkirk, Scotland.

Sorry for any repeat of info that you already know.

Will do some detective work on Canada411.  I am going to the Family History Center of LDS church tomorrow to do some more research.

SusanJane

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Selkirkshire / Re: Swanston(e)
« on: Tuesday 25 October 05 12:13 BST (UK)  »
Dear Swanny

Thanks for the reply.  My great great grandmother was Nicholas, James' older sister.  She was born in 1843 in the Galashiels.  Unusual name but Elizabeth Beck's mother was Nicholas Irving.  1841 census in Galashiels reveals the four brothers and a sister living in a household.  John, Andrew, George, Walter and Sibblea.  George and Walter and Andrew emigrate sooner than John (1845).   Andrew also settled up in Egremont and George and Walter stayed in Eramosa.
1861 census reveals John and Elizabther Swanston in Egremont but Andrew James' older brother) and Nicholas are not listed in the household.  Andrew I have found living in Eramosa with one of the uncle's.   Nicholas is also living down in Eramosa way with relatives because she marries a man from Nassagaweya the next township over in the Fall of 1861.  I can not find her anywhere on the 1861 census(have checked Egremont, Eramosa, Nassagaweya).  Do you have any information about Nicholas?  I would love to know more about her.  Do you have any pictures of John and Elizabeth Beck?  I have a great picture of James and Susan Swanston that came out of the Egremont Historical Book. 
They are shown with all their children.  Big family and very
propsperous looking.  Which one are you a descendant of?
Have been to Holstein (Reid's) Cemetery.  Your great grandparents tombstones still stand there.  John and Elizabeth are also buried there however their tombstones no longer stand! 
We drove past the brick house that James built on the home farm.  It was huge; three stories high.  A local lady told us that the people who live there now have just removed the third storey from the house.  It used to be a cistern for collecting water.  The Swanston's would catch water in the nice weather and when it froze they would skate on the roof.


Anything you have (stories, pictures) would be appreciated.

SusanJane

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Berwickshire / Re: Swanston(e)/Beck family
« on: Tuesday 18 October 05 00:24 BST (UK)  »
Hi

Thanks so much.  I was at the family history center and their IGI was down so I could not use it.  I strongly suspected that Nicholas had an older brother Andrew  as he was living with his Uncle on the 1861 census in Canada.  I have also managed to confirm that there were in fact 4 brothers who immigrated to Canada in the 1840's .  Are you familiar with the Galashiels?  On the 1841 census the census taker listed all  the regions he was doing and Mosilee was one of them listed.  On the census where I found the 4 brothers they were listed under Mofsilee.  Are these the same and which is the correct spelling/region?

Do you have access to deaths.  On the 1841 census the four brothers and a sister are in a household by themselves with no parents.  The mother is listed on the 1861 census in Canada living with one of the brothers.  Not sure where she is in 1841 but I suspect that Dad died young leaving the kids with the household.  Could you search for an Andrew Swanston .  He would be grandfather of the birth registration you found.  Last child listed on the 1841 census was 15 so he must have been alive in 1826.  I suspect he was from the Galashiels since the children were born their.

Thanks.

P.S.  Not sure when he was born since I have no census record of him.  Are there census records ealier than 1841?

Once again Thanks for the help

Susan

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Selkirkshire / Re: 1841 Selkirk lookups available.
« on: Friday 07 October 05 05:34 BST (UK)  »
Hi again

went to the Laterday Saint church today and looked on their computer as they subscribe to ancestry.com.  Plugged in Nicholas Swanston and she came up right away as being born in Galashiels, Selkirk  on May 25, 1843.  Her father John Swanston also shows up as being born 8 May 1808 in the Galashiels region of Selkirk.  His parents are Andrew and Isabel Swanston.  Her maiden name is Beck.  She often went by Betty Beck and is from the Dumfries area.  Would you be able to check the 1841 census for Andrew and Isabel Swanston in the Galashiels region of Selkirk and if John wasn't married yet he would show up in their household as a young man.  I am hoping that possible brothers may be Andrew, George and Walter.  These are the other families that lived in the same area and George and Walter list their father as Andrew on their respective marriages.

Thanks for your time

Susan

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Roxburghshire / Swanston(e)/Beck family
« on: Thursday 06 October 05 01:29 BST (UK)  »
 Hi , I'm working on my family tree.  I am looking for information on my ancestors John and Elizabeth (Beck) Swanston.  We
know very little .  They were born and married in Scotland.  their oldest children were born in Scotland before emigrating to Canada.  their oldest  child Nicholas was born May 24, 1842 in Scotland.  She is female.  We noticed on line that there are several Swanston families buried in cemeteries in The Roxboroughshire area.  They emigrated to Canada between 1850 and 1855.  Census records show a child born in 1855 as being born in Canada while a child born in 1850 was recorded as being born in Scotland.  I don't know where to go from here and was hoping for any information regarding this family or any tips on how to approach searching for a family if you don't know where they were originally from.

Susan

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Berwickshire / Swanston(e)/Beck family
« on: Thursday 06 October 05 01:27 BST (UK)  »
Hi , I'm working on my family tree.  I am looking for information on my ancestors John and Elizabeth (Beck) Swanston.  We
know very little .  They were born and married in Scotland.  their oldest children were born in Scotland before emigrating to Canada.  their oldest  child Nicholas was born May 24, 1842 in Scotland.  She is female.  We noticed on line that there are several Swanston families buried in cemeteries in The Berwickshire area.  They emigrated to Canada between 1850 and 1855.  Census records show a child born in 1855 as being born in Canada while a child born in 1850 was recorded as being born in Scotland.  I don't know where to go from here and was hoping for any information regarding this family or any tips on how to approach searching for a family if you don't know where they were originally from.

Susan

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Selkirkshire / Swanston(e)
« on: Wednesday 05 October 05 03:03 BST (UK)  »
I have traced my ancestors to Swanston(e) from Scotland.

Some Swanston's living close to my relatives in 1850  were from Selkirk.  I have a feeling they were related although not siblings but have not been able to prove that yet.  On this  hunch that they are related I would begin searching for them also in Selkirk.  John & Elizabeth (Beck) Swanston(e) born 1810 and 1816 respectively (approximately based on 1861 census records)  If Anyone knows anything about this family
it would be greatly appreciated as I am at an impasse at this point.  Thank you

susan
Ont, Canada

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