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Australia / Re: MITCHELL/Ballarat
« on: Saturday 30 April 11 11:17 BST (UK)  »
IGI has this baptism which is an extracted entry so is reliable.  it looks a possible ....................


         
EDWARD MITCHELL   
Born: 18 JAN 1814     
Baptism :21 NOV 1817     Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England
Parents: Robert MITCHELL, Elizabeth
 
This couple had 2other children baptised on the same date:   
Emma MITCHELL, born 24 OCT 1817
Henry MITCHELL, born 26 OCT 1815

Other children also which have same parents listed, and at same church:
Elizabeth - born 05 JUL 1810, baptised 15 OCT 1812
Thomas - born   25 APR 1812, baptised  15 OCT 1812 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England
Charles, baptised: 21 JUN 1809

What other information is on the death cert - children and wife's names?  Does it say how long he was in Victoria?

Judith

   


Many thanks, Judith for taking the time and trouble to look.  They are all the right entries for this family from what I remember.  I haven't got my tree in front of me so might be missing a name or two.  We have done well with the branches down from Robert and Elizabeth.  We don't know where Robert came from and we don't know Elizabeth's maiden name.  I had hoped that having one of the their children died in Australia may have given us the maiden name but I think Edward's wife may already have returned to England with her children and his death was recorded by a friend - John Little, a friend, Storekeeper, Borough (?), Ballarat East. 
Wife was Hannah Beckett and we have her death back in England.  It states two children Sarah (dead) and Louisa (23 years). It also states 20 years in Victoria.

There was a descendant of the family doing research but I have not been able to get a response from him for many years and I wonder if he might have passed on?  I've just had a quick look at hints on my ancestry tree and it came up with the descendant but he hasn't logged in for six months.  Going to try sending another message just in case I can manage to get him.  Interestingly he only has Thomas on his tree.

I have a note on my tree that Louisa might have married a George Brownley and died in Ballarat in 1867 so whilst the friend got Edward's parents right there seems to have been some mix up with the children assuming my information is correct.  I do not have a Sarah on the tree.  There was also a Thomas.  Both Louisa and Thomas were born in England (1844 and 1846) and Thomas I understand returned back to England with his mother. 

I have a couple of Brownley children on the tree - Hannah (1863) and Mary (1866) both Ballarat.

What I would like to do is find some references to Edward in Ballarat.  Perhaps trade directory showing his occupation as oculist or electoral rolls for Peel Street which is apparently where he was according to the burial record.

Best wishes and many thanks again for taking the time to respond and look.

lana

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Australia / Re: MITCHELL/Ballarat
« on: Friday 29 April 11 07:58 BST (UK)  »
Aagnes , as you say, was not a sister to EDWARD.

Death

DUNN  Agnes
Father Chellew Arth
Mother Agnes CARDEW
Age 78
Place: Ballt E
Year 1906
Reg.  11744


This couple buried 2 children within days of each other in 1863, then  athird a few years later.

EDWARD was placed with the children  and before the parents this certainly, I would say implies a close relationship.
Sue



Hello again Sue

Sorry not sure how to do a double quote.

I wonder if I need to try and find someone researching this family in case they can shed any light on the reason for Robert being in the grave with the children?

Again many thanks for taking the time to reply.

Best wishes
lana

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Australia / Re: MITCHELL/Ballarat
« on: Friday 29 April 11 07:54 BST (UK)  »
Adding as a bit of a help here, that the parents of this man are listed as....

ROBERT and ELIZABETH
Reg 175
Born Birmingham
Age 58



Sue

Many thanks, Sue

The information was apparently given by a friend who registered the death so it was good to see parents names that matched what I was expecting. Would have been over the moon if only the mother's maiden name had been mentioned. It would have ended a 25year search!!

Really appreciate the time you took to search and reply. Many thanks  :)

Best wishes
lana

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Australia / Re: MITCHELL/Ballarat
« on: Friday 29 April 11 07:51 BST (UK)  »
Hi lana,

An interesting piece on him here  http://www.rootschat.com/links/0czf/

Does his death cert name any family members?

Debra  :)

Many thanks, Debra
There are a lot of references to him in newspaper articles in connection with Matthew Burnett. They appear to have been written sometime after his death and whilst some facts mentioned appear true there are some that do not ring true and I wonder how much poetic licence Mr Burnett might have used?  I haven't got the death certificate in front of me at the moment but I remember that the death was registered by a friend. His wife is mentioned along with two children one of which is recorded as dead.  His wife and children as far as I know returned to England, possibly before he died. The friend has given the parents details accurately. I was hoping this death certificate would have lead me to his mother's maiden name but that is a whole other brick wall.

I am sure I read somewhere that the towns people were so impressed with how he gave up the drink that when he died they arranged for the funeral so could this explain the reason for being buried in what on the surface appears to be an unconnected family grave?

What I would like to do is find sources other than Mr Burnett's which place him in Ballarat and confirm his occupation as an oculist.

Very grateful for the time you took to search and reply.  Thank you  :)

Best wishes
lana

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Other Countries / Re: Overseas Births on Find My Past -
« on: Thursday 28 April 11 22:05 BST (UK)  »
thanks Trevor

I think we have established that I am barking up the wrong tree :-(

back to the drawing board..

Kind Regards
lana

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Australia / Re: MITCHELL/Ballarat
« on: Thursday 28 April 11 17:47 BST (UK)  »
I live in Ballarat, and noticed the refernce to Ascot street. Have you checked the Electoral Rolls? I could do it for you if you are unable.
Roger

Hello,

I hope it's okay to hijack this thread.  I am also interested in the Mitchell name and Ballarat.  I don't think there is any connection with the opening poster - just one of those strange coincidences.

I am interested in the following record from Ballarat Cemetery

MITCHELL EDWARD   67   20/03/1872

I have a copy of the death record - he died the 18/3/1872 at Borough Ballarat East Crossly Grant??? and was a Oculist.  Death Cert says he was 58 years old though?

A very kind person did a look up for me of the cemetery information and found the following about the grave:

Headstone inscription
DUNN our parents John 1.1.1903 68 yrs
Agnes 16.11.1905 78 yrs
 children Agnes, William, Chellew, Agnes d in infancy
 

DUNN AGNES    7    13/07/1863
   residence Mount Pleasant, Ballarat
DUNN AGNES    9MTHS    8/01/1869
   CHILD residence Ballarat
DUNN AGNES    79    17/11/1906
   WIFE residence Mount Pleasant
DUNN JOHN    68    3/01/1893
   MINER residence Mount Pleasant, Ballarat
DUNN WILLIAM CHILLEN    5    6/07/1863
   residence Mount Pleasant, Ballarat
MITCHELL EDWARD    67    20/03/1872
   OCULIST
residencce Peel St, Ballarat
 
 
They felt that Edward would nearly have to be related to the Dunn family to be buried with them (Agnes' brother perhaps?) but I couldn't find a connection.
 

I just wondered where I would start researching him in Ballarat.  Are there trade directories that may mention him?  Any census or electoral rolls for that time that might show him in Peel Street?

Would be grateful for any hints.

Kind Regards
lana

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Other Countries / Re: Overseas Births on Find My Past
« on: Thursday 28 April 11 17:00 BST (UK)  »
Many Thanks, JenB

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Other Countries / Re: Overseas Births on Find My Past
« on: Thursday 28 April 11 16:39 BST (UK)  »
How flexible is the GRO (I assume that is where I would apply for an overseas birth cert)?  Can you say I only want the certificate if the mother's name is such and such, please?

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Other Countries / Re: Overseas Births on Find My Past
« on: Thursday 28 April 11 16:38 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for the reply.  I guess the consulate information would be yet another clue as to whether I am barking up the possible right tree or not?

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