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Travelling People / Re: Gardiner, Scamp and Ayres - Essex, Kent and Surrey England
« on: Tuesday 19 January 21 12:37 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

Thomas Lee bp. 1821 was the son of Amos Lee and Mary Ann, one assumes Gardiner. Thomas himself and a number of his siblings used both Lee and Gardiner surnames throughout their lives.

Thomas married Mary Ann Riley in 1841 herself being the daughter of unmarried parents John Riley and Mary Whale.

Thomas and Mary had William Henry Gardiner bp. 1843 and Emily Gardiner bp. 1845

Thomas then leaves Mary or Mary Thomas, with him partnering with Eunice Lee the daughter of Henry Lee and Ruth Powell who baptise their first child in 1849.

Mary partners with David / Henry Lee bp. 1821 the son of Joshua and Joanna, and it is these with whom William Henry is living with in 1861 along with his sister Emily.

Emily Gardiner married James Dunk in 1867.

I assume the Mary Ann Lee buried 8 SEP 1872 at Strood, Mary Lee aged 51 Medway September Q 1872 was William Henry Gardiner's mother since in 1879 his father Thomas married Eunice at Beckenham stating he was a widower.

William Henry Gardiner baptised his daughter Emily in 1865 Plaxtol, Kent and son Leonard in 1867 with his partner Lydia.

Lydia died December Qtr 1870 North Aylesford and was buried at Northfleet in 1870.


It's curious that the Mary Ann Gardener who married Andrew Lowder in 1885 had a joint marriage with Matilda Lee and Jacob Marshall who witnessed Mary and Andrews marriage.

What was the profession of father and informant of Mary Ann Gardener born in 1862?

Olive Ayers daughter of Henry Ayres and Olive James bp. 1842 was living with her sister Mary in 1871 whose daughter Jane Collison married a Thomas Lee in Bromley September Qtr 1911.

In 1891 Olive is living as a patient in Brookwood lunatic asylum and it's likely the same person who died March Qtr 1892 Guildford.

I wonder if it's possible that William Henry partnered with Olive and had Mary Ann and perhaps Henry, then with Lydia and had Emily and Leonard and then another family with Cinnamenta?






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Australia / Re: Looking for Lila and Herbert BOSS - Lyndhurst NSW
« on: Thursday 07 January 21 19:11 GMT (UK)  »
ZACHARIAH LEE / CHARLOTTE HAMMOND

Hi, referenced above is the detail of Zachariah Lee & Charlotte Hammond parenting Vashti / Lavinia and Eliza.

Can I ask where this information was sourced from?

It's true Oliver Coopers second partner was a Lavinia Lee proven by the birth certificate of one of their children, the rest I haven't looked into to confirm but the Convict Indent for Zachariah states he was married at the time of his 'departure' and father to two girls, not three - perhaps if the above is correct Eliza was in the oven at the time he was convicted.

Is there any information as to what happened to Charlotte Hammond or a baptism for her?


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Travelling People / Re: LEE FAMILY
« on: Tuesday 09 September 14 11:43 BST (UK)  »
Hi Sharon, hi Jane, I've just stumbled across this thread and really hope to get in contact with you RE. Damon and Frances Lee. After a few years of trying to solve this one I've yet again hit a brick wall. It was my understanding that Damon and Frances were the parents of in no particular order Charles, Belcher, Humphry, Mace and Zachariah. I have no baptism details for Zac and take his relationship to Belcher from a newspaper article saying that he was Belcher's brother, but it could have meant brother-in-law as I understand Belcher to have 'married' Lydia Lee daughter of David and Sophia, whom had a son Zachariah.

It would be great to hear from you (not really sure how this site / forum works - maybe drop me an email)




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