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Immigrants & Emigrants - General / Why leave one child behind?
« on: Friday 11 July 25 13:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,

Looking into someone's family history and have come across something curious. I have a family - the Wickhams. Father is Thomas and mother is Catherine. They were married in Roscommon, Ireland in the 1860s. They then had four children: Thomas (1868), Eliza (1872), Anne (1875) and Andrew (1877).

In 1883, I have a passenger arrival document into the US for Catherine and three of her children: Thomas, Eliza and Andrew. I assume husband Thomas was already in the US setting up and preparing for his family to join him.

But it seems as though 8-year-old Anne was left behind. Her parents had one final child, Margaret, in the US in 1887.

Matriarch Catherine died in 1893 and in 1899, then 24-year-old Anne emigrated to the US (I assume to her family?) She married a fellow-Irishman later that year. They had three children in America before moving back to Ireland and having a fourth here.

But my question is, why would her family have left her behind when they all went to the US? I suppose she could have been sick ad unable to travel? Would there have been other reasons?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Cause of death?
« on: Sunday 26 January 25 15:59 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks all, much appreciated!

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Cause of death?
« on: Sunday 26 January 25 15:32 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone can determine what my 5xgreat-grandfather's cause of death was?

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Armed Forces / 1921 Census in Buller Barracks
« on: Saturday 11 January 25 12:48 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all,

Recently came across a man who might be my grandfather's uncle - William Houghton - in the 1921 Census.

Background
William was born in Aldershot to Rose Hannah and William Houghton in January 1899 (his father was in the army). The last record I have of him is the 1901 Scottish record where he's living in Glasgow with his mother and younger sister. He dropped off the face of the earth after that.

Now
Now I've possibly found him in the 1921 Census living in Buller Barracks as a Private, baker? His birthplace is correct and his age is off by almost 1 year exactly (which as census records go is pretty good I think!) Does anyone know how I can find out anything more about the person in this Census?? I've checked Fold records and can't see anything relating to this soldier. I'd love to confirm if this is my grandfather's uncle as I had just assumed he died as a baby as I could find nothing on him. (My grandfather's father - William's younger brother - was raised in an orphanage so we never knew this family)

Any help would be much appreciated!

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Well you see, I have found his wife and two children in the 1901 Census in Glasgow. After this, there is absolutely no record of those two children ever again - not in a census, a death or marriage. Nothing. I can't find any of them in 1911. There were a lot of William Houghtons and it's hard to narrow him down.

His wife had her son in 1905 and in 1908 the kid was lifted and put in an orphanage. In 1918 she left her address in the orphanage (she was living in Glasgow). In 1921 she's living with a new man who she claimed was her husband (but they actually got married two years later in 1923). No mention ever again of William Houghton. I've always assumed he died between 1901-04 and that because of that the family sort of fell apart - but I have nothin to prove this

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Oh that's interesting that he was so near Birmingham. I'm not familiar with the geography of the UK at all. I cannot find him anywhere in 1901 which is why I assume he was abroad. His wife was recorded in Glasgow as a 'wife of a soldier' rather than widow, so I assume he was still alive. She had a child by another man in Northern Ireland in about 1905 and there was never any mention of William again (she remarried in 1923). So I assume he died sometime between 1901-04 but I suppose he could have just deserted/separated from her

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Down / How would you become a magistrate?
« on: Wednesday 10 July 24 10:45 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,

I have an ancestor called James Robinson who in 1909 was appointed a magistrate when he was 54. He lived in Killinchy, Co. Down. I'm wondering would he have had to have training for this? Would he have gone to a college, and if so, what one? What would his duties have been? Would you expect that someone with that job would have been in Belfast a lot or would he have worked locally?

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Hi all,

My great-great-grandmother's husband was in the army and I'm trying to find his records. He was born on 15 January 1875 in Lady Pool Lane, King's Norton, Worcestershire, England. His name was William Edwards Houghton (although this is the only record of him with this name - he seems to have gone by William Henry Houghton). His father was George Houghton but he died before William was born. Because of this, his mother Harriet remarried quite quickly to a man named John Welch. (On William's marriage cert later he said that his father was 'John Houghton').

When William married in Glasgow in December 1895, his occupation was 'Private, 84th Royal Artillery.' By 1898, he was in the 66th Royal Artillery and by 1899 he was a driver in the 66th. Can anyone tell me where he would have signed up for the army? Or the work of this group or where I could find his records without knowing his number or where/how/when he died?

Thanks!

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Ireland / Anglicised names vs Irish names in family trees
« on: Tuesday 11 June 24 20:30 BST (UK)  »
Hi all.

A lot of my maternal ancestors came from rural Donegal and would have spoken exclusively in Irish at home. I can see in the 1901 census one family in particular spoke only Irish. By 1911, as the older children began to go to school, they were able to speak 'Irish and English.' One of these children was Brigid, my great-grandmother and I know from speaking with my mother that even though Brigid could speak perfect English, Irish was her first language and the one she spoke in to her family.

Despite this, all the official records (birth, marriage and death, Census' etc) record her with an anglicised version of her name (ie. Bridget/Brigid McGinely). The same can be seen for her parents (who were illiterate).

I'm beginning to wonder if I should record these ancestors in my tree using their Irish names as opposed to the anglicised versions? So for example, Brigid's father Patrick McGinley would be Pádraig Mag Fhionnghaile. I know it ultimately comes down to whatever I want to do myself, but I am curious as to what other genealogists think or have done in their own trees? Given what happened to the Irish language, and that I'm trying very hard to improve my own Irish, I think it could be a really nice recognition of how these ancestors would have lived...but as I say, I've never seen their names recorded in Irish anywhere.

What are your thoughts??

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