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I am related to the Owen Jones family of Bryntegid, Llanycil, Bala.   Their gardener at one time (living in Bryntegid Gardeners Cottage) was Joseph Jones.   Joseph and Jane Jones' son, Robert Evan Jones, mentioned in one of these posts, was fatally injured when a paraffin lamp tipped over.     He is buried at St. Beuno's Churchyard, Llanycil, Bala.     One of the Bryntegid children (Gwendolen Owen Jones) wrote a letter to her father mentioning the tragedy which occurred in about 1893.  I have a photocopy of her letter but the original is in the possession of my cousin.
In the 1911 census it was recorded that Joseph and Jane had had six children but two had died by then.
Nicky (I live in Llanycil).


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Merionethshire / Re: Notes on Llanycil burial records
« on: Wednesday 30 March 22 12:58 BST (UK)  »
It means Christ Church, Bala.   The same Burial Register is used to record burials in the churchyard at Christ Church, Bala and at St. Beuno's Churchyard, Llanycil, Bala.
Christ Church, Bala was built about 1855, so obviously there was no churchyard actually in the town of Bala before then, the burials were all at St. Beuno's Churchyard, Llanycil, Bala.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Dineley family, charlton manor
« on: Tuesday 05 September 17 17:27 BST (UK)  »
The Mayor of Evesham co uk website has photographs of the Mayors of Evesham name boards, with a transcription of dates and names beneath, which show that in 1733 Samuel Goodere was Mayor for the first half, and John Dinely Esq was Mayor for the second half of the year.   I am descended from Samuel Goodere through his daughter Eleanor who married William Wyborn of Shoulden, Kent.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Dineley family, charlton manor
« on: Tuesday 05 September 17 11:20 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone have details about the allegation that Samuel Goodere and his older brother John Dinely Goodere each served 6 months (in the same year) as Mayor of Evesham.   Apparently they had a physical fight, with one throwing the other one out of the chair (or out of office).
There is a Jarret Smith on the list of Mayors of Evesham, which is the name of the solicitor in Bristol involved in events immediately prior to Sir John Dinely Goodere's murder.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Dineley family, charlton manor
« on: Sunday 08 March 15 09:47 GMT (UK)  »
Mention of the duel is in a book called Broken Lives by Lawrence Stone, about famous divorces,in the chapter about John Dineley Goodere who was murdered by his brother and my ancestor Samual Goodere.  The son's name isn't given but I guessed it was Edward after his father, grandfather.
George must have died before Samuel otherwise Samuel would not have expected to "inherit" next in line from John Dineley Goodere and John's son or sons (who died young).
I had a quote for copy papers from the National Archives but it was over £1,000 so I didn't go ahead.  I believe they can be viewed free by anyone willing to travel to Kew.
The murder trial /witness statements are easy to find by using a browser.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Dineley family, charlton manor
« on: Saturday 07 February 15 19:55 GMT (UK)  »
Edward Dineley Goodere was baptised at Cropthorne, Worcester on 5th June 1684, son of Edward Goodere.  He matriculated Christ church, 27th June 1702 aged 16, which doesn't quite tie in with his baptism date.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Dineley family, charlton manor
« on: Saturday 07 February 15 19:49 GMT (UK)  »
It is believed the son killed in Ireland was Edward. He is not mentioned in the Will because he had already died.
The younger brothers (mentioned in a Will) were John Dineley Goodere, George Goodere, Samuel Goodere and Henry Goodere.   They also had a sister Eleanor, and Samuel had a daughter called Eleanor by his first wife.  This daughter Eleanor married William Wyborn from whom I am descended.

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Wilcoxons COMPLETED
« on: Saturday 30 August 14 16:52 BST (UK)  »
Edward Owen left £50 to senior Arthur Wilcoxon as compensation for executing his Will, with a mourning ring, and he left a mourning ring each to Arthur Wilcoxon junior and Robert Wilcoxon, "of Camberwell."

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Merionethshire / Re: What happened to these old photos of Llanuwchllyn?
« on: Saturday 30 August 14 10:26 BST (UK)  »
An article on the BBC news website "An album of old photographs  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-18647351 includes the following information:

Edward Jones, on the donkey, was a local man and a chapel elder.

He used a donkey to get about because he was unable to walk properly after an illness in childhood.

Despite this he still managed his farm, and worked as a butcher selling meat at the local market each week.

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