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Cornwall / Re: Francisco Samuel Short ?
« on: Thursday 22 May 25 16:55 BST (UK)  »
I don't think this is her. She was born around 1873 (according to Census records) and this Catherine C. Short was 85 in 1969, DOB c. 1884.

I just thought that maybe Francisco was buried/cremated at the same place as his mother.

Catherine C. Short  buried in Camden 4 February 1938. Not sure why she wasn’t buried with her husband Horace Short.  I have checked here and no ashes etc., added Horace Shorts grave. Also checked with Liz Walker a relation, she renovated two Short graves in Hampstead and no additions there.


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Cornwall / Re: Francisco Samuel Short ?
« on: Thursday 22 May 25 16:23 BST (UK)  »
Last one...

Do you know where his mother has been buried/cremated? I understand that she was still alive when he died?

... Mrs V E Gregory chairman of Newquay Urban Council who wished the fete every success The fete was formerly opened by Mrs H L Short of St Mabyn and she was thanked for doing so by Heather Roberts who gave her a bouquet and by Bromley Watson who gave Mrs ...

Published: Thursday 10 June 1954
Newspaper: Newquay Express and Cornwall County Chronicle
County: Cornwall, England

I don’t know Catherine C Short died 1969 in Liskeard while in Lanellion Hospital, Station Road Liskeard.  Same location as the death of Francisco S Short in 1954.  Going round in circles here, as lots of Short’s in Cornwall. Unless something new/solid comes along, I must move onwards. Thx

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Cornwall / Re: Francisco Samuel Short ?
« on: Thursday 22 May 25 09:19 BST (UK)  »
Last one...

Do you know where his mother has been buried/cremated? I understand that she was still alive when he died?

... Mrs V E Gregory chairman of Newquay Urban Council who wished the fete every success The fete was formerly opened by Mrs H L Short of St Mabyn and she was thanked for doing so by Heather Roberts who gave her a bouquet and by Bromley Watson who gave Mrs ...

Published: Thursday 10 June 1954
Newspaper: Newquay Express and Cornwall County Chronicle
County: Cornwall, England


She moved late in life to New Zealand and died there. Her cremated remains were lost in a house fire.

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Cornwall / Re: Francisco Samuel Short ?
« on: Wednesday 21 May 25 15:33 BST (UK)  »
Old eyes here I'm afraid  ;D

Have you tried this place given as his address?

'Francisco Samuel Short, of "Leylands," Meopham, in the County of Kent'

https://vlex.co.uk/vid/short-v-treasury-comrs-793722029


Hello Old Eyes


Yes I have tried that location and of course the nearby churchyard. Nothing.

Mike

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Cornwall / Re: Francisco Samuel Short ?
« on: Wednesday 21 May 25 12:40 BST (UK)  »
Any final thoughts please on the location of the burial of Francisco Samuel Short ?  Died 1954 at The Fountain Inn,  in Liskeard, Cornwall while on a business trip.  No record of his cremation/burial once undertakers took the body after the Inquest had been held.

Grateful for any new eyes on this please. I am up against a deadline now.

Thank you

Mike

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Cornwall / Re: Francisco Samuel Short ?
« on: Friday 02 May 25 10:25 BST (UK)  »
The person who gave evidence of identity of Francisco Samuel Short, was Percy Parker of The Bungalow, Trevisquite St Mabyn. He was in the hotel drinking with Mr Short.

Mr Parker lived in the same area as Hugh Oswald Short, who lived at Trevisquite Manor, St Mabyn. He would have known the Short family.

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Cornwall / Re: Francisco Samuel Short ?
« on: Friday 02 May 25 08:28 BST (UK)  »
I wonder if when they restored their grave headstone they forgot to add Francisco's?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKcGjSs18YI

https://shortbrothersaviationpioneers.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/newsletters/short-brothers-newsletter-016.pdf

It looks like they moved around 1957, but maybe they had another house in West Sussex and the plot in the cemetery? Long shot…



Have you looked here?  https://stgermansparishes.com/graveyard/graveyard-list/

A couple of ??? headstones...


The graves in Sussex for The Short’s were renovated by Liz Walker. She is a distant relation of the Short Brothers. Among other items she also thru public appeal repaired the 2x Short graves.

I checked this location and I am waiting for confirmation from Liz Walker herself.  Francis Short was close to the couple, he was treated like a son by them. But I don’t think there is further evidence.

After the Inquest on Francis Short, the body would become the property of the next of kin/widow. The body was in the local hospital and was collected.  There are no records who collected the body, or where it went.  After the hospital, the rest becomes a mystery.

When Winnie Orchard moved to New Zealand she spoke often about her days in Padstow/Rock but never about where husband one was buried.  It seems he was mentioned very much.

I don’t like a mystery but I have no idea where to look/search anymore.

Thank you to everyone who helped, I am grateful.

Regards


Mike

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Cornwall / Re: Francisco Samuel Short ?
« on: Thursday 01 May 25 19:11 BST (UK)  »
Yes the couple do, an early check out. Not there!  Francis did help Oswald Short a great deal when battling the British government.  I guess I may have to give up on my search. Shame!

Regards

Mike

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Cornwall / Re: Francisco Samuel Short ?
« on: Thursday 01 May 25 15:57 BST (UK)  »
I have seen it (partially, because I don't have a subscription) on British Newspaper Archive. He wasn't from the hotel, he was described as being Percy Parker of the Bungalow Trevisquite, St Mabyn.

... his room and saw was dead in bed. The sheet and blankets were covering mouth and nose. Evidence of identification was by Percy Parker of The Bungalow Trevisquite St Mabyn said that Mr Short was of independent means.

Published: Thursday 10 June 1954
Newspaper: Newquay Express and Cornwall County Chronicle
County: Cornwall, England

https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results/1954-06-01/1954-06-30?basicsearch=%22percy%20parker%22&phrasesearch=percy%20parker&retrievecountrycounts=false

Thank you again!  Very useful and thank you for the link. Strange I didn’t see this before. Helps a little but not towards finding the body.  The search continues.

Kind Regards

Mike

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