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Sussex / Re: Parkers / Sheaff's in Shoreham?
« on: Thursday 16 February 23 09:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all
Following continuous searches and DNA match updates I think I have a new theory about Albert Parker.
I think he was born Albert Sheaff in 1883 in New Shoreham. His parents were Thomas Sheaff (1840 and Mary Sladden (1850) both from Sibertswold Kent. A lot of my significant, traceable DNA matches are from this area and the wider ancestors of Sheaffs and Sladdens etc.
There remains a mystery why he changed his name to Parker and also about his life between 1904 and 1920 and I would be very grateful for any help or insight.

There is a document suggesting Albert Sheaff married a Lillian Higgins in Newcastle in 1904 and they had two children. I can't find the death or divorce of Lillian. (he may even have deserted the army to attend the wedding).
Also AS seems to have been placed in jail in 1914 for break-in and entering, this is a surprise to us as he was of good character. I'm starting to think he changed his name in 1915 before re-joining the army. When he came out of prison he was released to Ham Road, Shoreham.

The theory is that Albert Parker was born as Albert Sheaff.
His family moved to New Shoreham and set up a family. Albert was born in 1883 registered in Steyning as Albert Sheaff. (Evidence available)

Albert Parker said his father Thomas Parker was in the 20th Husars, there no evidence that a Thomas Parker was in 20th Hussars but we can find a Thomas Sheaff in 20th Hussars.

In 1891 census the Sheaff family with Alberts siblings were together in Shoreham.
In 1901 census Albert Sheaff was at an army barracks in Chichester (we have other docs that suggest he's been to South Africa with the army before this).
In 1911 census Albert Sheaff was in the military, possibly in India.

Thomas Sheaff died in 1906 and in 1909 Mary (Alberts mum) remarried to Charles Smart and became Mary Smart.

In the 1921 census Albert Parker was living in Liverpool with wife Emily Nicholson. It's a mystery why he states he was born in 1882 in Mhow, but that needs to be resolved. But here is an interesting point. Also in the 1921 census in Brighton, Mary Smart is still living with Charles Smart (her new husband) at 12 Ham Road. In 1921 there is an absent voter - Albert Parker.
Albert must have been registered as living with his mum immediately after the war but as Parker not as Sheaff. Surely that is acknowledgement from his family that he changed his name but had already moved away.

I can't find a death cert or record for Albert Sheaff (because he died as a Parker in 1949?).
I have no evidence of a name change.
There is no probate for Mary Smart (nee Sladden) and it was her youngest daughter that registered the death.

Any thoughts or help would be really appreciated.
John

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Other Countries / Re: India: BMD records for local people
« on: Saturday 08 October 22 19:17 BST (UK)  »
Thanks osprey, that's not providing the results I'd hoped for.

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Other Countries / Re: India: BMD records for local people
« on: Saturday 08 October 22 16:07 BST (UK)  »
Hi
My GF was supposed to have been born in Mhow, India in 1882, I don't think he lived there long, we suspect his father was in the army. Does anyone know how I can obtain details of births in India during that period?
They are not on Ancestry.
Thanks
John

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Other Countries / Re: INDIA: Sgt-Major Evangelist Davis (looking for info)
« on: Thursday 06 January 22 12:29 GMT (UK)  »
I have a similar problem. We've discovered my GrF Albert Parker was born in India in 1883. We suspect his father was called Thomas Parker (serving over there in the army) but don't know his mums name or where they lived before they went to India.
Does anyone know where we can obtain serving army members or travel documents to/from India around that time?
Thanks

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Thanks Brigid, I have asked Ancestry for a quote focusing on DNA rather than research, but they haven't got back to me yet.

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Sussex / Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« on: Sunday 27 June 21 18:34 BST (UK)  »
That's superb, thank you so much Jon.

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Sussex / Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« on: Sunday 27 June 21 17:01 BST (UK)  »
UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927 on ancestry
Has a Thomas Parker born 11 Sep 1846, Shoreham, Sussex.
Various documents from 1867 and 1870, with addresses in Shoreham, and North and South Shields.

Not sure that helps in any way!
Jon, what are the various addresses, can you link me to them please. And would you be confident the TP in N&S Shields is the same one as Shoreham.
Ta mate.

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Sussex / Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« on: Sunday 27 June 21 15:22 BST (UK)  »
I've bought that Albert's bc just in case a father was named but it was blank. I think that Emma was 25, b1858, so I've purchased 2 death certs of Emma Parkers who died in Brighton in the 1920's hoping for a clue or if Albert registered the death but they were not helpful.
The reason why I chose the 1920's is because my cousin was told my uncle was taken by Albert to see his dying mum in Shoreham when he was a small boy but we don't know any names or any other detail.

That concept has also made me look at some Mary Ann Parkers who died in the 1920's. 

Yep, the 1921 census will give me a birth place - fingers crossed, and a bit more certainty about the birth date.

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Sussex / Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« on: Sunday 27 June 21 13:17 BST (UK)  »
Anything helps jon :)
I've noticed the Masters cert - that indicates he was in the Navy? Alberts marriage cert suggests he was in the 20th Hussars. It's possible that on the 1891 (by 1891 Albert could have been anywhere) census Thomas was away so never living with Albert, but theres no trace Albert was ever born to Thomas or Albert was living with his mum.
Thanks again, any links or help will be thoroughly explored.

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