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Down / Re: Holden - Crothers
« on: Wednesday 10 September 14 23:01 BST (UK)  »
JimG

Thanks for your reply.  There are definitely some positive leads especially the John Holden and Co - both my G/ G/ Grandfathers daughters were listed as dressmakers, the eldest Lizzie, b about 1850 so there still may have been a connection between the families at that time and slightly later.  Also from the Dee, I remember hearing of the Clegg's as one of the last families on the "big ilse" so that may be a connection.  I think you are right its church records that hold the key

Many thanks

Catedee

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Down / Holden - Crothers
« on: Sunday 07 September 14 23:23 BST (UK)  »
Hi

I have just been looking at family graves again in Donaghadee Parish (CoI) church, Co Down, NI,  We have an extended family plot comprising of a group of 3 graves.  Each side is bordered by a "Crothers" grave that I am reasonably sure I know about, one at least being my G/G/ grandfather James Crothers of Herdstown, D' Dee, but the middle one has me baffled.  The inscription reads:

"Here Lyeth y body of thomas holden who died the 2nd of October 1738 aged 54 years
Also 4 of his children
Here lieth y Body of Luke Holden who died June the 7th 1760 aged 37 years.  Also Abbigal “Ruffell” (Russell?), a child
Also the body of James Crothers, son of John Corthers who died June 8 1777 _____ (illegible)"

The Crothers' graves that border the middle grave would be later - from about the late 1800's / early 1900's

I am trying to work out the connection between Holdens and Crothers so can anyone shed any light on the Holdens?

Many thanks

Catedee

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Kingskerswell

Many thanks - here hoping


Catedee

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Hi  - particularly Anne, hope you are still monitoring this

I just saw the name Henry Dougan Sandford on this thread.  I have been researching the Sandfords in Belfast and think he was my g/g/uncle.  His father was William John Sandford and his mother was Margaret Ann Cooper.  When WJ died she re-married a Thomas Stewart so I found her through the WW1 records of her other son Samuel where she was listed as a dependant

Catedee

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Flintshire / Re: Letman Chemist of Saltney
« on: Saturday 09 August 14 16:01 BST (UK)  »
Hi 

I have Letman connections too and have been researching them recently.  I am so hoping that this thread is still active.  I am Cathy, my paternal Grandmother was Florence Sandford, nee Letman, the daughter of John, son of Isaac, son of Edward the chemist, so John Letman would have been my g/g/g/g/g grandfather.  My branch of the Letmans moved from Crewe to Belfast some time after 1911.  They were still in Crewe at the time of the census, the surname is recorded on that census as "Le Aman" but corrected to Letman.  If there is any further information on the Letmans of Saltney and connections I would so love to hear it.  This is Florence on her wedding day and her brother Isaac is the witness.

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