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Argyllshire / Re: Where is Caolasraide or Coalasraide, Argyll?
« on: Wednesday 13 September 23 02:53 BST (UK)  »
Subject: Collaborative Efforts to Uncover the Mystery of Caolasraide

Hello, fellow genealogy enthusiasts,

As we delve deeper into the quest to uncover the secrets of Caolasraide, I want to express my unwavering enthusiasm for this endeavor. Allow me to share a family story of those who have searched for this elusive place. Around 1980, my aunt wrote to a university in Scotland in pursuit of information about Caolasraide. Her hopes were high, however, the university responded with a reference from Ontario instead of Scotland. While I can't be certain, my best guess is that this reference was the 1903 letter to the Argyllshire Advertiser, documented in a 1977 genealogy magazine. The author of this letter was a contributor to the book "Some Sketches of the Early Highland Pioneers of the County of Middlesex." I would like to post the article but found it is too large. I will see if I can reduce the size and post later.

It's possible that no official Scottish record exists for Caolasraide, making it challenging to pinpoint its location definitively. However, I hold out hope that someone among us may have access to a Scottish record that mentions Caolasraide. In reply #7, a forum user named Gadget recalled seeing Caolasraide on a baptism record for Kilcalmonell and Kilberry, though details about the person and date were missing.

My primary goal is to unravel the lives of the individuals listed as originating from Caolasraide. To achieve this, I'm starting with Canadian records to match families and gather reliable birth years. The next phase involves searching Scottish records for individuals and family members to identify locations and patterns that could shed light on Caolasraide's whereabouts. This is where your invaluable insights and knowledge can play a pivotal role.

On page 15 of the book, it states that Duncan Lamont was born in Caolasraide, South Knapdale, in 1802. I've delved into the 1790 Statistical Account of South Knapdale, yet I'm still not entirely clear on whether the parish of Kilcalmonell and Kilberry would be included in South Knapdale or considered distinct.

If any of you have alternative ideas or strategies for uncovering the mysteries of Caolasraide, please don't hesitate to share them. Your perspectives are invaluable, and together, we can make progress that we might not achieve individually.

Before closing, I will share one more personal story about my search for Caolasraide.  The first tangible evidence of Caolasraide I ever saw was a barn. Near Poplar Hill Ontario, there was a barn with painted large letters “Caolasraide,” attesting to another family’s link to their past. If anyone recalls this or has information about the family please share. 

I eagerly anticipate hearing your thoughts and insights.
Warm regards,
iancraw

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Argyllshire / Re: Where is Caolasraide or Coalasraide, Argyll?
« on: Wednesday 13 September 23 01:52 BST (UK)  »
Subject: Reviving the Discussion on Caolasraide

Hi, here is part 2 of my planned 3 postings to restart the discussion on where is Caolasraide.

A.   Introduction

To assist in our discussion about Caolasraide, I've compiled key references from "Some Sketches of the Early Highland Pioneers of the County of Middlesex." These references shed light on individuals who originated from Caolasraide. In this post, I will present the information from the book and provide a few insights based on comparisons with other records. In my subsequent post, I will explain how this information could be instrumental in uncovering the precise location of Caolasraide. My hope is that organizing this information will aid others in their research and potentially lead to collaborative efforts in investigating this intriguing historical mystery. Note that square brackets indicate information I have added to the 1979 edition text.

B.   Relevant Portions from the Book

Section: Pioneer Ministers and Movements

Page 15
Duncan Lamont was born in Caolasraide, South Knapdale, in 1802, and came to Lobo in 1820. He professed conversion, was baptized in 1829, soon after ordained a deacon, and preached in Lobo, Caradoc, and other places for 37 years, till his death in 1867.

Section: Township of Caradoc

Page 35
Archie Fletcher, Caolasraide, 1842, c., Archie, Neil, Dugald, Duncan, Nancy (Mrs. McKenzie), Mary (Mrs. A. McLellan), Margaret (Mrs. D. McGugan), Jennie (Mrs. A. McGugan)

Malcolm Crawford, Caolasraide, 1842, c., Archie (Lobo), Dugald, Dr. Allan. Malcolm, Mrs. Arch. Fletcher [Margaret Crawford], all d.

John Crawford, Caolasraide, 1835, c., Archie, Duncan

Charles McLean, Caolasraide, 1831, d. in Enniskillen, c., Malcolm, Allan, Annie (Mrs. Keith) Sarah (Mrs. A. Johnston). Mary (Mrs. D. Turner), Catherine (Mrs. A. Duncan), Bella

Allan McLean, Caolasraide, 1831, c, John, Hector, Allan, Archie, Charles, Duncan, M. D., at Deckerville. Mich., Isabella at home

Duncan McLean. Caolasridae 1831, c., John L., in Strathroy, Charles A.

Section: Township of Lobo

Page 38
Donald Lamont, Caolasraide, 1820, c., Duncan, Peter, John, Mary m. Donald Johnson, Isabella m. Sylvester Campbell, Rachel m. Donald Sinclair, Christie m. Duncan Graham

Widow (of Archibald) Johnson [Margaret McMurphy], Caolasraide, 1820 (family record further on):
Page 40 Married Archibald Johnson at Tabert, came to Lobo in 1820, c. Alexander, Effie, Donald, Nancy, Hugh, Bella, Margaret, John, Dugald, Archibald, Mary (ten born in Scotland and one after 1821). The father was accidentally drawing in the Thames in the spring of 1821.

Page 39
Dugald McMurphy, Caollasraide, 1842, c., John, Arch., Duncan, Dugald, Donald, Alex., Christie (Mrs. D. Root), Nancy (Mrs. John Edwards), Flora (Mrs. Thos. Edwards), Bella (Mrs. James Campbell), Mary (Mrs. Rowe)

Dugald Carmichael, Caolasraide, 1842, (moved to Petrolea), c., John, Mrs. Anderson, Mrs. Barry,
Mrs. Butterworth

Page 39-40
Archibald McGugan, Coalasraide. 1828. c. John. Archie. Duncan. Flora (Mrs. Currie), Sarah (Mrs. Anderson), Margaret, Mary

C.   Insights and Commentary

In this post, I have maintained the spellings as found in the 1979 edition, the original 1904 used the spelling of "Caolasraide" except for 1 typo of "Caolasraie."

Regarding Hugh McColl's book, I am using the term "place of origin" for Caolasraide. While I've searched within the book, except for Duncan Lamont, I have not found clarification on whether this represents the birthplace or a residence at some point in these individuals' lives. It's essential to note that the children mentioned in the book are not necessarily born in Scotland; for many individuals, most of their children were born in Canada. Also, it will take further effort to find the spouses of individuals, it appears the spouses are listed with their families. Sharing the same last name does not necessarily provide conclusive proof of a familial relationship. Despite longstanding speculation, there are no records to definitively establish a connection between John Crawford and Malcolm Crawford.

The book does specify that the year mentioned is when these pioneers settled in the stated township. I suspect that the information was sourced from local township offices, where land records would have documented the initial possession of properties.

I hope these clarifications enhance the understanding of what is found in Hugh McColl's book, making it more informative and engaging for fellow genealogy enthusiasts. For those who have connections with anybody listed above I am interested in learning more about the people you are researching.

Warm Regards, iancraw

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Argyllshire / Re: Where is Caolasraide or Coalasraide, Argyll?
« on: Tuesday 12 September 23 23:25 BST (UK)  »
Subject: Reviving the Discussion on Caolasraide

Hello everyone,

It's been a while since this forum was active, but I'm excited to revive the discussion on Caolasraide and the people associated with it. I hope there's still interest in this fascinating topic, and I would welcome any ideas and information to see what we can learn together.

In my research, I've concluded all known individuals connected to Caolasraide can be traced back to 1 source. This source is a book edited by Hugh McColl in 1904 for the Gaelic Society of Toronto. The book, titled "Some Sketches of the Early Highland Pioneers of the County of Middlesex1," lists hundreds of individuals, place of origin, their settlement dates in Middlesex County, and often their children.

Within this book, 12 individuals are documented to have originated from Caolasraide in South Knapdale. These individuals include Duncan Lamont, Archie Fletcher, Malcolm Crawford, Margaret Crawford, John Crawford (my great-great-grandfather), Charles McLean, Allan McLean, Duncan McLean, Margaret McMurphy (widow of Archibald Johnson), Dugald McMurphy, Dugald Carmichael, and Archibald McGugan. They settled within an area of 80 square miles outlined by Strathroy, Coldstream, Lobo Village, and Mount Brydges, Ontario.

To make this information more accessible, I'll break down my thoughts into three separate postings. This post is intended to reintroduce the topic. In my next post, I'll provide references from Hugh McColl's book for the individuals associated with Caolasraide. Finally, in the last post, I'll discuss plans to research these individuals further, seeking information about their lives in Scotland to determine if any insights into what location(s) they had in common.

Here are the web addresses for Hugh's book:

1904 edition
https://www.canadiana.ca/view/oocihm.79291/1

1979 Reprint (searchable)
https://digitalcollections.ucalgary.ca/asset-management/2R3BF1OEHIY83

I look forward to your participation and insights in this journey of discovery!
Best regards, iancraw

1. Hugh McColl. Some Sketches of the Early Highland Pioneers of the County of Middlesex.  Ottawa, Ontario: Canadian Heritage Publications, 1979 (reprint 1904).

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Argyllshire / Re: Where is Caolasraide or Coalasraide, Argyll?
« on: Thursday 29 January 15 02:29 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Carl,

I can't answer your questions but I believe the mysterious Caolasraide I am looking for is a village that was near Tarbert.  The area I was raised in Canada included Caradoc and Lobo townships was originally settled by many families from the Knapdale area.  There are still members of the Fletcher family who farm in Lobo township.  It is possible Margaret Crawford is connected to my family but I have no records past my great great grandfather who was born 1801 in South Knapdale.

Ian Crawford

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Argyllshire / Re: Where is Caolasraide or Coalasraide, Argyll?
« on: Wednesday 06 August 14 23:37 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for the postings, Gagdet's posting was the first time I have come across a Scottish reference for Coalasraide.  Up to now all my references have been Canadian.
From 1790 to 1799 the British government developed a Statistical Account of Scotland by Parish. This can be found at www.stat-accscot.edina.ac.uk. Follow the links to Argyll and select the South Knapdale parish to see information about this area. I also looked at he KIlacalmonell and Kilberry parish but there are no mentions of Coalasraide.  However these documents do give an impression of life in the area at the end of the 18th century.

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Argyllshire / Re: Where is Caolasraide or Coalasraide, Argyll?
« on: Wednesday 06 August 14 12:15 BST (UK)  »
The best information we have about John Crawford's birthplace is found in "Some Sketches of the Early Highland Pioneers of the County of Middlesex" originally published in 1904 by the Gaelic Society of Toronto was republished in 1979 by Ottawa Canadian Heritage Publication. Page 35 indicates John Crawford came from Caolasraide in 1835. The information found on page 34 is indicated this information came from from Donald Campbell who was the father in-law of Duncan Crawford (John's son). According to this book a large number of immigrants to Caradoc and Lobo townships came from Caolasraide. Page 15 of this book locates Caolasraide in South Knapdale.



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Argyllshire / Re: Where is Caolasraide or Coalasraide, Argyll?
« on: Wednesday 06 August 14 04:41 BST (UK)  »
My family has been looking for the elusive Caolasraide  for years.  My great great grandfather John Crawford was born in Caolasraide  in 1801 and emigrated to Ontario, Canada in the 1830s.  We understand Caolasraide is in South Knapdale, Argyll, Scotland and family legend said it was a fishing village.  Many families in the area I come from in Ontario originated from Caolasraide.  One farm in Poplar Hill, Ontario even had the name Caolasraide. I was told 30 years ago my aunt wrote to a university in Scotland trying to locate Caolasraide  and they sent her  an article from our local Ontario paper that was about people who originated from Caolasraide but they had no further information.

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