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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Gisleham parish registers
« on: Friday 12 September 14 08:43 BST (UK)  »
The revd. Metyer Reynolds was c48 when he married. There were no children. The wife was buried in her home village of Forncett. She leaves all her substantial property to a naval officer resident Norwich: a presumed relation not investigated. Metyer Reynolds, buried Gisleham, left £50 pa to an assumed housekeeper(?) when he died. Perhaps its fanciful to wonder if there was some pressure for him to marry in a vain attempt to perpetuate his adoptive family, although I can't see how this could have worked. After founding the school for 6 poor boys at Gisleham, the remainder of his estate was to be shared amongst his nephews/nieces and their children. One of these great nephews, Metyer Reynolds Allen, is transported for theft of an Ass but has an estate of £50 which eventually (1894) passes to HIS great niece. I suspect this is his share of Metyer's estate which came his way after his transportation. He would have been 100 in 1894, so evidently presumed deceased.
It seems Metyer Reynolds was baptised John Reynolds, Hethersett 1712. In 1725 Edward, the last male of the Metyer family died at Salhouse. He left a widow and a married Metyer Aunt, Mary Appleton. Presumably it was one of these who sponsored John Reynolds as organist scholar at Emanuel from 1733. When Revd. Metyer Reynold's nephew, Metyer Reynolds, grocer of Norwich, died in 1790 there is a notice in the IPSWICH Journal which wrongly names him as John Metyer Reynolds whereas the Norwich notice correctly names him as Metyer Reynolds. Someone in Ipswich got their wires crossed.

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Norfolk / Re: Metyar Reynolds
« on: Wednesday 10 September 14 16:24 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the tip about NW Manor Rolls. This is v likely to be the revd. Metyer Reynolds. Documents at NRO show he owned property in NW:   "Deeds of messuage called the Dolphin, copyhold of the manor of North Walsham, with barn and other houses under one roof, late destroyed by fire and since in part rebuilt, to which Bozoon Brigg was admitted as nephew of Mary Brigg 1762 who then surrendered to Metyer Reynolds clerk."
Metyer Reynolds was probably baptised John Reynolds, Hethersett 1712. At some date prior to his admission to Emanuel College in 1733 he adopted the name Metyer. The Metyer family name died out in Norfolk in 1725 with the death of Edward who was survived by a Metyer Aunt, married Appleton, and his widow. At a guess, one of these sponsored John Reynolds on condition he changed his name as an attempt to continue the family name by proxy. Although Metyer Reynolds married he had no children although a nephew and three great nephews all had Metyer as a first name.

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Gisleham and Spexhall. REYNOLDS. r this purpose
« on: Thursday 21 August 14 12:55 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
No further records at Emmanuel. One little give away I think. Both the Norfolk Gazette and Ipswich Journal report the death of Metyer Reynolds, grocer of Norwich early in 1790. The Gazette gets the name correct: Metyer Renolds. The Journal has "John Metyer Reynolds". Seems like someone knew something but wires got crossed. I've written the story for publication in The Norfolk Ancestor. If you'd like a draft copy (3 sides) please advise how I may reach you. The attachment options provided above this message as I write seem fairly opaque....probably not appropriate for this purpose.
Regards. DC

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Gisleham and Spexhall. REYNOLDS.
« on: Saturday 16 August 14 19:22 BST (UK)  »
Apologies! John is the son not of Thomas and Mary but Thomas and (I think) Elizabeth.

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Gisleham and Spexhall. REYNOLDS.
« on: Saturday 16 August 14 19:20 BST (UK)  »
Metyer Reynolds started at Cambridge in 1733. Suppose he was 20, that takes us to 1713. John Reynolds is baptised to Thos and Mary 1712 and I have found no other references to him.
The Metyer family male line died out in 1727 leaving a widow and a paternal aunt, either of them might have tried to perpetuate the name.
I've emailed the Emanuel College archivist. We'll see how friendly they are.
Maybe I've misinterpreted the note added to the will suggesting its value. Of course Metyer may have given gifts during his life. In addition to Leonora's annuity, there is the estate of Metyer Reynolds Allen.
He was transported in 1824 for theft of an Ass. In 1892 Sophia Reynolds Allan Allen (don't ask), his niece, is granted administration of his estate valued at £50. Presumably by this time they though he would be deceased. Now presumably he wouldn't have been stealing Asses if he'd had £50 to his name in 1824. Could this be his share of the will, only paid out after a long delay?
Can't do much more for now. Will come back if anything arises.

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Gisleham and Spexhall. REYNOLDS.
« on: Thursday 14 August 14 13:11 BST (UK)  »
Its a long winded process getting access to the document above. I'm waiting for an email estimate of the cost and then they post to me....if I think its value for money. My guess would be that any dispute relates to the £400 for the school which was certainly set up. Of course the newspaper ad suggests otherwise. I'll give that a look.

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Gisleham and Spexhall. REYNOLDS.
« on: Thursday 14 August 14 10:04 BST (UK)  »
The will of Metyer Reynolds. In summary form, headed "Archdeaconry of Suffolk". National archives. Real and personal estate to be converted to money.
Executors John Browne of Trowse nr. Norwich and Rbt. Reeves of Lowestoft, gent.
Legacies: Sarah Downing £50 a year for life. (Notes suggest she was 45).
Executors £50 each
£400 for establishment in perpetuity of a school in Gisleham to teach 6 poor boys to read.
Residue to nephews and nieces, children of my brothers and sisters, share and share alike, and if deceased to their children.
Scribbled note: value £614 duty paid £36.17 which I take to be the total value of his estate. website suggests at least £64,000 today in purchasing power.

Trowse again. The children of nephews and nieces would be the right generation for the children of Thomas and Mary at Hethersett. Likely that rector Metyer had assisted his family during his life.

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Gisleham and Spexhall. REYNOLDS.
« on: Wednesday 13 August 14 18:09 BST (UK)  »
I can read leaoney. Well that's 4 syllables at least with the first 50% correct, but quite dyslexic. In view of other factors I think this is likely to be my 4x g grandmother so thanks!
I hadn't considered the possibility of an adopted name, as a mark of gratitude to a benefactor, in fact I didn't know it happened. The Metyer family of Salhouse and Woodbastwick were noted for charitable work...there still is a Metyer charity at Salhouse. Now did the Berneys or Branthwaites have an interest at Salhouse? Perhaps it was Metyer's skill as an organist at a young age which brought him to the notice of a benefactor. I'll investigate later but plan to watch some sport on TV tonight.

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Gisleham and Spexhall. REYNOLDS.
« on: Wednesday 13 August 14 16:03 BST (UK)  »
It appears Leonora's death was not registered. I'd dismissed Livah as being a misreading of Livia or Lydia but I'll have another look. The next question is what relation Parson Meyer Reynolds was as I've found no trace of his baptism, which would be ca.1713/14. Many thanks for your persistence. Oh yes, Parson Metyer's will or extract from it are at National Archives. I'll have a look this evening.

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