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Kincardineshire / Re: Benholm Kirkyard & OPR
« on: Thursday 25 September 14 23:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jim,
The Gove and Watt family in Kincardinshire has many sons that have similar names.
For example there are 2 Andrew GOVES both of Johnshaven, Benholm. One born on the 5th of July 1849 the other in Oct 1851. I believe these 2 are cousins, their parents William GOVE and John GOVE being the sons of William GOVE and Christian nee MUFFERT. A number of researchers have recorded the Andrew born in 1851 as the son of William GOVE and Elizabeth WATT; when in fact he is the son of John GOVE and Catherine nee DOUGLAS.
I have seen the names you mentioned but have not looked to see if they are closely connected to the family line I have researched. One of the problems I found in researching the line I have followed is that the children seem to leave home in their early teens or even earlier. Just why this is the case I have not been able to determine. The William Gove and Elizabeth WATT family that I have researched had seven children that I know of. Of these only one remained in Scotland. James, William, Robert and David all migrated to Gippsland, Victoria Australia. Elizabeth Law McEWAN nee GOVE married to James McEWAN a plumber and her brother Andrew GOVE a plumber migrated to the Detroit Wayne Michigan area. Helen KEILLER nee GOVE lived at 19 Market Street, Perth, Perthshire, Scotland. 
It is quite possible that there is a link going back perhaps to William GOVE and Christian MUFFERT, but the records get much harder to determine around that era unless one is able to find death and marriage certificates.
If you are able to find a connection then I would be interested in hearing from you. However I have just about concluded my research into the Gove family.
My interest was due to the fact that my grandfathers sister married a John Lawson GOVE, and that I lived in the Sale - Clydebank area as a youth where the Gove men had farms. My uncles worked on these farms when they were young men before world war 2.
If I am able to help you with details I am happy to share.
Kind regards
Leon
 

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Kincardineshire / Re: Benholm Kirkyard & OPR
« on: Wednesday 30 July 14 21:41 BST (UK)  »
Good Morning Jean,
Elizabeth GOVE died of Gastric Catarrh on the 27th June 1889 at age 79 years. She was the widow of William GOVE and daughter of James WATT and Elizabeth WATT nee LAW. The informant was David GOVE, son who was present. Medical attendant was James Aymer.
William GOVE died of Ulceration of the Stomach aged 66 years on the 9th March 1875 the husband of Elizabeth WATT at Fore Street, Johnshaven. William was a Whitefisher the son of William GOVE a Seaman and Christian GOVE nee MUFFERT. The informant was Helen GOVE daughter of Woodville Parish of St Vigeans who was present at death of her father William. Medical attendant was Frederick Lewins.
Thank you ever-so much for your time.
Kind regards
Leon
Sydney
Australia

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Kincardineshire / Re: Benholm Kirkyard & OPR
« on: Tuesday 29 July 14 02:20 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Jean for your prompt reply,
I hope you are able to clarify things for me.
My childhood and youth days were spent in the Sale district, but left there in 1962.
Ann Margaret GOVE was the daughter of John Lawson GOVE and Hilda CAWTHORN. John is the son of David GOVE & Janet nee JACKON. Ann married a Noel FREEMAN. I am trying to put together the history of the GOVE'S for the children of Ann. I am also in contact with the descendants of James GOVE the older brother of David. James GOVE married an English lady in Sale by the name of Ellen WOOLMER. She had a son Julius born in London. He became well known in the Melbourne district as a Horse Exporter to India. Julius born Julius Wolff WOOLMER may or may not have been James' son although Julius took on the name of GOVE when he sailed to Australia. Julius lived with his mum Ellen and James for a number of years on a property known as "Glencoe" near Sale. Sorry to bore you with these details. But sometimes it is interesting to know a little of what became of people after they left their homeland.
Thanks for your assistance.
Leon

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Kincardineshire / Re: Benholm Kirkyard & OPR
« on: Sunday 27 July 14 10:17 BST (UK)  »
Hi my name is Leon, I see a message looks like October 2010 No 58.
It refers to the Benholm Kirkyard and there is a mention of a William GOVE who died 9 Mar 1875. then it looks like w Margt wamm died 1889.
Firstly is it possible that the wife's name is Elizabeth maiden name was WATT she died 27th June 1889.
William and other children James & David all went to Australia and lived near Sale, Victoria Australia. James was married in 1858 in Sale. William married in Sale in 1863. Daughter Helen was present at her fathers death in 1875 and she was the informant. David was the informant of his mothers death in 1889. He with his wife Janet nee JACKSON travelled to Australia between the Census of 1891 and 1893 when his son John was born in Sale December 1893. He and his brothers James and William all owned farms near Sale. We are not sure of what happened to daughter Elizabeth Law GOVE or Andrew GOVE. They may be the 2 infants the died.
Secondly, Is there a photo of the headstone referred to in your correspondence? 
Your assistance will be greatly appreciated. Leon, Sydney Australia.

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