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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Where in the World am I from?
« on: Monday 21 July 14 12:52 BST (UK)  »
Thank you all for your input as I know well enough not to trust another's tree. I also have found that it's hard to trust "official" documents. Witnessing how much my last name has changed will confirm that. Right now, each piece is a small piece of a larger puzzle that I'm not sure will ever be completed. I'll keep trying though. :)

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Where in the World am I from?
« on: Friday 18 July 14 10:55 BST (UK)  »
Thanks everyone for all the research you each have done. Soon I'm going to rebuild my tree on the LDS page. I found some info on a different website that was for a different family that had Charles and Catherine in their tree. It gives his birth year and her year of death as well as their children. I saved the info on my computer at work; I'll post it on Monday when I return. I'm off to Tennessee for the weekend with the wife and kids. Thanks again.

Jeff

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Where in the World am I from?
« on: Thursday 17 July 14 18:58 BST (UK)  »
I'm not sure if this will throw a wrench into what we've been finding, but here are the 1900 census records for a Chas Kinney...born in Ireland...and in the correct county of Virginia.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MMF6-QK7

I have a few issues with this though. The record states that he is 25 years old, but in the image he states that he is 35. Here's what's wrong, in the image his birth year is listed as 1875, but the census is 1900 and that would put his birth at 1865 with the other censuses we've been looking at. He's also listed as single and not divorced.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Where in the World am I from?
« on: Thursday 17 July 14 16:38 BST (UK)  »
It would be good if you could find marriage details.


What information do you get on a marriage certificate in the US?


I'm not certain, I'll have to look at my marriage certificate. I believe they only have the date and location of the wedding, and who did the ceremony.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Where in the World am I from?
« on: Thursday 17 July 14 16:24 BST (UK)  »
I'm looking into that now. I would think a death certificate would have his birth date and location, but since I dont' have one yet, I'm not certain. :)

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Where in the World am I from?
« on: Thursday 17 July 14 16:12 BST (UK)  »
Those censuses are the 1880 twice which you know is him - with the Kirbys.

The others are the 1870 and 1880 from NY - which would then be doubtful as he is in Virginia in 1880.

Could it be just a coincedence that both census' match for his age and birth location at the time? They would both have a Charles born in 1865 inside of NY. Or could he have moved to VA and been counted twice? Or is that just grasping at straws? I see that from the 1870 census to the 1880 census that Patrick only aged four years.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Where in the World am I from?
« on: Thursday 17 July 14 15:53 BST (UK)  »


Right now that's the only evidence Heywood, but his birth place is the part that confuses me. One 1880 census has him living with the Kirbys, one of whom he eventually married; this cencus has him being born in New York. It would be a large coincidence to find another Charles K sharing a home with another Kirby family with a daugher named Catherine. At this point I don't put much stock in the gravestone, although I'm open to any and all documentation that may come up.

Was there a Census stating he was born in VA? I've seen three and they all have New York.

I have only seen him in 1880 census. Which others do you have him in?
His children's censuses show their father born Virginia. That is if I have the right children. :)

Here are the census' I've been looking at so far:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MCPX-WBL
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M8KF-WTS
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MCPX-WBT
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M8KF-WRY
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MZFY-1MP

I'll have to print them off and look them over. Something doesn't seem right. Perhaps I should look into the children as well.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Where in the World am I from?
« on: Thursday 17 July 14 15:28 BST (UK)  »
MargP, looks like Catherine had a thing for boarders. :)

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Where in the World am I from?
« on: Thursday 17 July 14 15:19 BST (UK)  »
I may have this wrong - Is the only evidence re Charles at the moment the 1880 census and the headstone?
1880 has his birth, New York but in other censuses for his children, they have Virginia as their father's birthplace.
I do realise re errors, lies and ignorance though.
Additionally, Charles, son of P &B in New York is also in 1880 census -  hasta's post.

Heywood

Right now that's the only evidence Heywood, but his birth place is the part that confuses me. One 1880 census has him living with the Kirbys, one of whom he eventually married; this cencus has him being born in New York. It would be a large coincidence to find another Charles K sharing a home with another Kirby family with a daugher named Catherine. At this point I don't put much stock in the gravestone, although I'm open to any and all documentation that may come up.

Was there a Census stating he was born in VA? I've seen three and they all have New York.

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