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Australia / Re: Flaherty / Roels
« on: Friday 05 May 17 06:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi ddenge,
I was interested to see your post. I am only related to the Roels through a marriage to an interesting woman named Mary Ann Amelia Clapham who married Phillip John Roels in 1860 in Sydney. This lady used many different names to hide her identity. I think because she did not want her original family to find her. I do not have much information about the Roels family. On the marriage certificate for Mary Ann Amelia who was calling herself at the time HANSEN, it says that her husband Philip John ROELS was born, The Hague, Holland and that his father was Philip Jacobus ROELS, a merchant, and his mother was M.H.A. HALLUNGILLS (I would love to know what the M.H.A. stands for). Philip John ROELS was also sometimes known as Phillipe Jean ROELS or Philip Jean ROELS. He was a mariner and I have traced him on several ships, mostly as master but on one he was listed as the mate on a ship with his nationality given as Netherlands.
This is as far as I have gone with the ROELS family. If you would be willing to send me a copy of the photo that you have (if you think that there is a connection to the family that I am researching) I would be thrilled. (email: gazell @ westnet . com . au) (leave out the spaces of course).


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Australia / Re: Flaherty / Roels
« on: Tuesday 07 February 17 11:12 GMT (UK)  »
Hi and thank you Wivenhoe.

Yes that is my Mary Ann.
I know that her mother married Jeremiah after her first husband was killed. There are lots of details about the family in previous posts. Jeremiah was previously married in 1845 to Sarah Hillier, who died in 1847 and that marriage is under the surname LETHSOW. Hannah and Jeremiah married in 1848. They were married at Independent (Congregational) Sydney, St Phillip's Mariners' Church. They do not seem to be able to get Jeremiah's name correct as it is given differently in a lot of documents, he and Hannah were married under LETHWICH. ???

I don't think that I had the one about poor Thomas' Funeral. It is sad about him. Did you notice that the article above the funeral notice is about his death?

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Australia / Re: Flaherty / Roels
« on: Saturday 04 February 17 10:44 GMT (UK)  »
Has anyone noticed how strange the newspaper notice is?

1/ Captain Roels and Mary Ann were married in 1860 not 1862.
2/ Her father was not J. Lethbridge.
3/ I have not been able to find out much about Mary Ann's previous husband, however I suspect (unless anyone knows differently) that he may have been still alive when she married Capt. Roels.
The only reference that I have found which MIGHT be her husband William Jones is in Pre-1839 foreigners in NZ. This site points to a William Jones in the Southland Times, 13 Jan 1898, page 2.
This article says that a William Jones, an old whaler, who resided in Taranaki since early in the 30's, died on Tuesday, aged 89. It does not mention any other useful details.

Of course William Jones is a very hard name to research unless you have some details about the person to start with! So who knows.

It seems very strange to me to put a notice of a marriage in the paper that actually happened 32 years previously and to give a year that is 2 years out. And it is a notice as if the marriage had happened in 1892.

This is altogether a very very strange notice.

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Gloucestershire / Re: Frustrating lack of online Gloucestershire Parish Records.
« on: Sunday 06 July 14 10:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi Victor,
Thanks for the marriage of John Butt and Maria Walkley. Pity it does not give parents names. I can't connect this family to mine yet. ???
Every little bit of info helps though.
Thanks again,
Gail

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Gloucestershire / Re: Frustrating lack of online Gloucestershire Parish Records.
« on: Thursday 03 July 14 08:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi Again Maree,
I hope that you are still interested in this query. It is really interesting. I said that James Pearce married Eliza Butt and had William, Thomas and Mary. Now I find that a John Butt married a Maria Walkley on the 30th Sept 1832 in Bisley, All Saints. I have no idea what relationship this couple may have to my James and Eliza Butt. For further information on these Bisley Butts see the following link.
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GLOUCESTER/2000-05/0959076483. Posted by another person interested in the name.
Gail

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Gloucestershire / Re: Frustrating lack of online Gloucestershire Parish Records.
« on: Thursday 26 June 14 17:20 BST (UK)  »
Hi Maree,
With regard to the family on the Eastern Empire in 1862. That family is one of mine and William was my great-grandfather on my dads side. His mothers name was Eliza Butt and his father was James Pearce. The family came from the Bisley, Stroud area of Gloucestershire. William I know a bit about and as far as I know he never called himself Walkley. His father may have died sometime between the birth of the youngest child Mary and the 1861 census. James is listed in the 1851 but not in the 1861, although the rest of the family is and Eliza and her eldest son were supporting the family as umbrella handle turners. I believe that this occupation was a very poorly paid one. They may have had family who emigrated to Australia earlier on and I think that their circumstances could have been the reason that they decided to come to Australia in 1862.

There is a William Walker on the same trip of the Eastern Empire, but, his mother seems to be a Dinah Walker aged 35 with four children, William aged 14, Janet aged 12, Margaret aged 6 and Christina aged 4. They are listed under Wives and Families of Persons Resident in Colony. Their person in the colony seems to be a James Walker.

I hope this helps a bit. I still have a lot of questions about this family. I would love to know when Williams dad James Pearce died for instance.
Anyway let me know if I can help.
Gail :)

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