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Sussex / Re: Looking for info on Thomas Sayers - Boxer
« on: Thursday 19 June 14 15:58 BST (UK) »
Many thanks Roy; useful information and much appreciated. Best, Jim
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Sussex / Re: Looking for info on Thomas Sayers - Boxer
« on: Friday 13 June 14 15:50 BST (UK) »
Roy G./Valda, et al:
Hello from the U.S. I'm a Sayers - originally from Harrisburg, PA, but now living near Washington, D.C. My grandfather, also Jim Sayers, had a lithograph in his living room titled "The International Contest between Heenan and Sayers".
Anyway, there was an old family story indicating that we were perhaps descendants of Tom. I think it's more likely that maybe we're descendants of Tom's brother/cousin. Would love to hear if you have any info about the American branch of the Sayers Family...starting in the mid-1850's and moving forward.
Also...a note on that. The family story I've heard repeated many times indicates that the Original Sayers in America married an Indian Woman (possibly a Cherokee). I see on the Dawes Commission Rolls (1896) that there is a William Thomas Sayers (43 years old, 1/16 Cherokee) and his two Children William Thomas Sayers (8 years old, 1/32 Cherokee) and Cora Ann Sayers (6 years old, 1/32 Cherokee). Is it coincidental that William Thomas is named after Tom Sayers the boxer and his father? If not, am I crazy to think there's a chance that William Thomas Sayers (the 43 yr old Cherokee man in 1896) might've been Tom Sayers' grandson? Considering the tangled Sayers family situation in the 1850's & 1860's, does anyone know if any of Tom's children left the UK for America?
Love to get your thoughts, and thank you to everyone for your insightful commentary.
Cheers,
Jim Sayers
Hello from the U.S. I'm a Sayers - originally from Harrisburg, PA, but now living near Washington, D.C. My grandfather, also Jim Sayers, had a lithograph in his living room titled "The International Contest between Heenan and Sayers".
Anyway, there was an old family story indicating that we were perhaps descendants of Tom. I think it's more likely that maybe we're descendants of Tom's brother/cousin. Would love to hear if you have any info about the American branch of the Sayers Family...starting in the mid-1850's and moving forward.
Also...a note on that. The family story I've heard repeated many times indicates that the Original Sayers in America married an Indian Woman (possibly a Cherokee). I see on the Dawes Commission Rolls (1896) that there is a William Thomas Sayers (43 years old, 1/16 Cherokee) and his two Children William Thomas Sayers (8 years old, 1/32 Cherokee) and Cora Ann Sayers (6 years old, 1/32 Cherokee). Is it coincidental that William Thomas is named after Tom Sayers the boxer and his father? If not, am I crazy to think there's a chance that William Thomas Sayers (the 43 yr old Cherokee man in 1896) might've been Tom Sayers' grandson? Considering the tangled Sayers family situation in the 1850's & 1860's, does anyone know if any of Tom's children left the UK for America?
Love to get your thoughts, and thank you to everyone for your insightful commentary.
Cheers,
Jim Sayers
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