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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Inebriate Workhouse Guiltcross, Kenninghall, Norfolk.
« on: Tuesday 23 January 18 20:14 GMT (UK)  »
@hanes tulu

Many Thanks for that!

I don't suppose you have a link/copy of any article from the Portsmouth Evening News or know where I might be able to find one?

David.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Inebriate Workhouse Guiltcross, Kenninghall, Norfolk.
« on: Tuesday 23 January 18 16:33 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Yasmin1989,

I was the original poster in this topic and maybe able to help.

I found the Guiltcross list of 'inhabitants' on a different site other than Ancestry (findmypast). If you sign up they have 'inmates' lists and also prison registers for Kenninghall which look like the attachment.

If I can be of further assistance feel free to email me/message me and maybe we can help each other with research?

Good luck!

David

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Inebriate Workhouse Guiltcross, Kenninghall, Norfolk.
« on: Thursday 24 July 14 08:28 BST (UK)  »
 Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.

 I do believe that discharge papers don't exist for the period that Amy was at Guiltcross in 1911. So far I have managed to ascertain that the inebriate house itself was being phased out at this time anyway and totally defunct by the 1st World War.

 Guess I'll keep on plugging away. I'm pretty sure the answers to how and when she got out actually lie in the Portsmouth Archives, so I guess a trip there is in order.

 Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.

 Regards,

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Family History Beginners Board / Inebriate Workhouse Guiltcross, Kenninghall, Norfolk.
« on: Wednesday 23 July 14 16:12 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

Long shot I know, but thought I'd turn to some experts.... Apologies if this is in the wrong place, but would really appreciate some assistance.

My Great Grandmother was Amy Sophia Wiles (nee Morgan) (born in Dartmouth, Devon on 23rd January 1872). She married George John Wiles (born in Lovedean, Hampshire on 10th December 1866).

In 1909 Amy Sophia Wiles, then aged 37 was convicted of 'cruelty to children' and declared a habitual drunkard. She was given a 12 month sentence of hard labour by the Portsmouth Quarter Sessions and is listed at the Guiltcross, Kenninghall Inebriate House in Norfolk on the 1911 census as an inmate at this institution.

Her children are:

Gertrude Amy Wiles (born 7th May 1896 in Portsmouth, Hampshire).
Caroline Emily Wiles (born 17th August 1900 in Clapton, London).
Albert Edward Wiles (born 24th September 1902 in Walthamstow, London).
George Morgan Wiles (born 25th July 1904 in Walthamstow, London).
Valentine Kate Wiles (born 14th February 1906 in Barnet, London).
Ada Mary Wiles (born 9th February 1910 in Portsmouth, Hampshire).

It appears that she was given some sort of 'grace' period before her last child was born in 1910 but then served her sentence.

on the 1911 census the two youngest children (Valentine Kate Wiles & Ada Mary Wiles) are listed as 'boarders' with a family called 'Bundy' at an address in Portsmouth.

Firstly I know that the Mother Amy Sophia Wiles (nee Morgan) got back to Portsmouth as that's where she died in 1942 of 'Senility'. But I was wondering if anybody could help me/assist me on how exactly to locate how Amy got out of the Inebriate Workhouse. I have gathered that the Guiltcross Inebriate Workhouse ceased to exist in 1914 but if anyone in the Norfolk area knows anything about how to trace records I'd be eternally grateful.

Failing that I'm guessing that Portsmouth Parish Registers after 1911 Census are the way to go? Would this be enough to clarify how and when Amy got back?

Sorry for the rant, but would be gratefully appreciative if anybody had any tips/advice for an amateur genealogist!

Cheers :)

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