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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Help with Andrew Boddon of Carsphairn
« on: Monday 26 May 14 20:41 BST (UK)  »
Penny

It seems you have found as much as possible.

Regarding Andrew Boddon's title as Surgeon, it seems he was doing little more than performing minor surgery and as someone said earlier in the thread they used to be Barbers although he must have had some training, maybe he could do amputations, which would be required around Carsphairn as I understand there were some mines in the area, although I don't think it would be full time work and that's why Robert McMillan refers to him as "sometime surgeon"

My research into Andrew Boddon found a Will made by an Andrew Boddon d1839, I thought this might have been his father but Andrew the younger is not mentioned in the Will as being related, however he is mentioned in the Will as being a creditor, at the time the Will was executed it states:

Principal sum in promissory note by Andrew Boddan, Surgeon Crocketford to the defunct dated 14th November 1825.....£200.00... Interest due thereon...(unreadable)
Principal  sum in Bill by the said Andrew Boddan, Surgeon Crocketford to the defunct dated 28th January 1828 payable three days after date.....£66.5.6
Interest due....(unreadable)
On which no value whatever can be put the debtors being utterly insolvent

So it seems Andrew Boddan wasn't doing too well at that time but had well to do namesake who must have been a relation, but I can't find the connection.

Does Robert McMillan's Dyeing Handbook mention any names or contacts? I ask because Marion's sister Margaret (my GGG grandmother) her daughter Jane married a widower Silk Dyer from Glasgow, he had his own silk dyeing business, so I presume there was a business connection.

Tom


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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Help with Andrew Boddon of Carsphairn
« on: Friday 23 May 14 23:55 BST (UK)  »
Hi Tom,

I'm a descendant of Marion McMillan and Rev Peter Mercer. Marion was the sister of Margaret McMillan, who married Andrew Boddan.

I'm interested in more information about Marion's relatives, including her sisters. Marion and her husband emigrated to South Australia in 1855, but I only just discovered recently that Marion and her children were back in Kirkpatrick Durham at the time of the 1861 census which was a surprise to me.

I'm keen on building up a story about the life of my ancesters and their children, so this means I'm keen to excahnge certificates or other records or photos that help with knowing more about occupations, where they lived, family relationships etc. I'd love to know more about Margaret McMillan and Andrew Boddan and anything else you may know about the family in Scotland.

Penny
Melbounre, Australia
Hi Penny
I presume you have all the information on Marion's father Robert McMillan?

Marrions' sister Margaret married Andrew Boddon (a surgeon) they had 4 children Elizabeth(b1830)  Robina (b1832) My ancestor, Jane (b1834) and Robert (b1841)

They stayed at Crocketford for a spell before moving to Carsphairn where Margaret died in 1845 and then Andrew in 1850.

The children went to stay with the McMillan grandparents at Newbank, they can be found in the 1851 census at that address, although my ancestor Jane is not included in this census (must have been elsewhere)

Robert McMillans last Will and Testament causes me a problem as he mentions all his sons and daughters as though living, the will is dated 1847 and executed in 1853 but according to the pre 1855 Mls for Carsphairn graveyard Margaret died in 1845, and also interestingly enough names two more daughters...Marion died 1843 aged 9 months and again Marion died 1845 aged 7 months...named after their aunt Marion perhaps?

Do you have any more information about Robert McMillan? Also there are old pictures of Newbank Mill (the house Marion would have known) on the web if you Google the name.

Tom

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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Help with Andrew Boddon of Carsphairn
« on: Thursday 22 May 14 13:38 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I'm interested in making contact with anyone researching this family.

Penny Mercer

Hi Penny
My email address was deleted by my provider for some reason and I haven't been on the site for some time.

Do you require any specific information or do you have any?

I came to a dead end with regards to my origional query/ancestor and the thread seems to cover most of the information available but if there is anything I can help with let me know
Tom

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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Help with Andrew Boddon of Carsphairn
« on: Tuesday 12 January 10 00:15 GMT (UK)  »
Hi  :)

Just a possibility but there might be a link.

Do any of you know of a William Bodden(alt spellings) who went to Wales (Merionethshire)  from the Carsphairn/Kells area in the 1830s and died there? 

Gadget

Sorry nothing showing a William on my documents, I have no firm evidence for any of Andrew Bodden's relations except the possible link to James Bodden as being his father, as shown on the MI's provided by Matt.

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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Help with Andrew Boddon of Carsphairn
« on: Monday 11 January 10 13:46 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Matt .

The information you have has been most helpful Thanks.
I am now tying in your info with details I had managed to uncover , and the mist is lifting slightly !
Any other information you have that is relevant to the Boddons would be most helpful .
What is your line of connection to the Boddons. ?? ... mine is direct  through the male line .
Regards
Jane

Jane

I presume your birth name is Jane Boddon, if so it's another coincidence, as you maybe have noticed from my previous post that that was my ancestors name, Jane Boddon :) :)

Tom

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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Help with Andrew Boddon of Carsphairn
« on: Monday 11 January 10 13:38 GMT (UK)  »
Matt.

I've PM'd you with my details.

Thanks
Tom

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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Help with Andrew Boddon of Carsphairn
« on: Friday 08 January 10 12:18 GMT (UK)  »
It does seem now that we do have the same common ancestor Andrew Boddon.

You'll find the census document on Scotlandspeople for 1841 showing the family.

Search:
Andrew Bodden (sic)
age 35
Kirkcubright
Carsphairn

This will show Robert aged 6 months

For the McMillan Grandparents in 1851

Search:

Robert Bodin (sic)
age 10
Kirkcubright
Kilpatrick Durham

It cornfirms the correct family as the sisters names are the same with the correct ages
You'll need to buy the previous page for the grandparents details.

You can also get the Will/Testament for Robert McMillan (cost £5) from Scotlandspeople

Search:

McMillan
Robert
1853

This confirms the link to Andrew Boddan (sic) surgeon, it makes quite interesting reading IMO.

It's also likely that Andrews parents could be the ones mentioned above by Matt in the James Bodden family grave 1770-1839 as the year range seems correct.

As far as the correct spelling of the name goes, my ancestor gave the spelling as Boddon on her marraige cert, although the grave stone states Bodden, take your pick ;D

Tom

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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Help with Andrew Boddon of Carsphairn
« on: Thursday 07 January 10 16:39 GMT (UK)  »
Matt, thanks

You've done it again, it all matches my information, I trust your not physically trudging the graveyards for the information.

So far I've got back 5 generations on this Female line, I don't trust the Male line since I found one of my Great Great Grandfathers was illegitimate, the old saying "you always know your mother but can never be sure of your father" holds true.

Now if I could find more on Elizabeth Locke, I believe she came from Parton whilst Robert came from Irongray, thing is I can't find them anywhere on the 1841 census on Scotlands People.

Thanks again for everything
Tom

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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Help with Andrew Boddon of Carsphairn
« on: Thursday 07 January 10 00:18 GMT (UK)  »
Re your search for Andrew Bobben & family, I think this may be of interest to you.

Taken from the Pre 1855 MIs for Carsphain graveyard.

Andrew Bodden d 7.7.1850 aged 44yrs.
Wife Margaret McMillan d1.5.1845 aged 38yrs.
Dau Marion d 18.10.1843 aged 9mths.
Dau Marion d 23.3.1845 aged 7mths.

Hope thyis helps.  Matt

Thanks Matt your a star , this seems to be the correct family, the ages match my 1841 census and explain why the rest of their children are staying with grandparents in 1851.

My only problem is why the grandfather intimates Margaret being alive in his 1847 Will ? although I think the Will could have been amended and added to so the date may be irrelevant.

Thanks again
Tom

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