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Everything is fine this end, thanks very much for your help Ray.
The helpful, friendly nature of the people on Rootschat never ceases to amaze me, if not for the tremendous help I've received from people on this forum I would have hit a dead end long ago.
A big thank you to everyone here.

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Sorry to but in on this thread but I have a similar problem.
I've sorted a lot of my family tree and greatly appreciate the help from the good folks at Rootschat, but my cousin has more information which we can't access.
She last worked on it in about 2005 as far as she can recall but her file is saved in .gft format, she changed to a mac a few years ago and no longer has her old PC.
She also can't recall if she had the CD for GSP Family Tree or whether she purchased it online and downloaded it, either way we can't get our hands on the software to open the file.
She's happy to buy the software again or at least buy some software that will open her file, but Google tells us that such a beast is not available.
Any help we can get would be very much appreciated.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: William Webster Bendigo Victoria
« on: Wednesday 30 July 14 06:20 BST (UK)  »
Hi Glenn,
The William Webster I'm interested in was born in Lancashire in 1843, married Ann Glasgow in Bendigo in 1866 and possibly died in Bendigo in 1913, I'm assuming that this could be your father's grandfather.
The only problem could be that according to what I've been able to find out so far he and Ann Glasgow had three children, Isabella, Agnes and Thomas James, so no child named William as far as I'm aware.

From the Bendigo cemetery records:

WEBSTER, WILLIAM
    Date of Death: not available
    Date of Burial: 12/06/1912
    Interment Number: 21583
    Cemetery: BENDIGO
    Section: MON M6
    Grave Number: 12881
_____________________
WEBSTER, WILLIAM
    Date of Death: not available
    Date of Burial: 26/08/1913
    Interment Number: 22105
    Cemetery: BENDIGO
    Section: MON F1
    Grave Number: 22105
_________________________
WEBSTER, WILLIAM
    Date of Death: not available
    Date of Burial: 19/11/1917
    Interment Number: 23705
    Cemetery: BENDIGO
    Section: MON L3
    Grave Number: 23705
__________________________

There seems to be three possibilities for your great grandfather.
Hope this helps.

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I believe everyone has their own special story  - and how lucky are we to have the resources and records to try discover and tell it!  ;D

I agree.
I only recently embarked on the journey to discover my recent origins but the process has been fascinating and very educational.
I was talking to my friend about it today and saying how it makes you appreciate that you're only a minute and rather insignificant part of the overall humanity, even though within your own family and close circle of friends you are important.
It's very grounding, and well worthwhile.



You might find this website about brush makers interesting:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/kdoughty/drawing.html
Amazing part in it about how many cattle were needed to provide the bone for tooth-brush handles!

Cheers
AMBLY

Remarkable.
Where I live there are a large number of outworkers, mostly from South East Asia, sewing up various garments in garages, converted shops and houses, mostly at poverty level wages, and my mother did the same in the inter war period of the last century.
So nothing much has changed.

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Thanks for your help.
I looked as far as I could but I'm new to this so I don't really know how or where to search, but I figured that London in the mid 19th century would have been teeming with people and that it wouldn't be easy to locate my ancestors from among the masses.
The Australian records seem to be more comprehensive so I haven't had much trouble tracing their movements after their arrival, it's probably because there were far fewer people here, I've even managed to unearth some relevant newspaper cuttings.
I guess there wasn't anything very special about the sons and daughters of labourers and toothbrush makers in London circa1820.  :(

Your problem is the timeline! ::) ;D

Civil Registration (and Birth, Marriage & Death Certificates) began on 1st July 1837.
The first census, of any use to Family History, was that of 1841.
Passenger Lists only survive from 1890.

So we need to look at other sources - such as Parish Registers, or legal documents.
These aren't always handily available online! :(

Indeed.
I'm resigned to the fact that I may not get far, on this branch of the tree I'm currently back five generations so I guess I'm doing OK.
If that's as far as we can go then so be it.

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Thanks for that, and a very nice hand had Richard Smithson.

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Thanks for your help.
I looked as far as I could but I'm new to this so I don't really know how or where to search, but I figured that London in the mid 19th century would have been teeming with people and that it wouldn't be easy to locate my ancestors from among the masses.
The Australian records seem to be more comprehensive so I haven't had much trouble tracing their movements after their arrival, it's probably because there were far fewer people here, I've even managed to unearth some relevant newspaper cuttings.
I guess there wasn't anything very special about the sons and daughters of labourers and toothbrush makers in London circa1820.  :(

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Good afternoon
Checking the deaths for Australia- Ann Dunton died Donald Victoria 1915 age 88 and therefore born  1827.
I think that census is right and this is her baptism
Ann Smithson 17.9.1827 St Martins in the Fields to Richard and Ann Smithson tooth brush maker Castle St.
Other children for the couple
Lavinia 30.6.1823 St Martins in F Castle St
Sarah 17.9.1827 same
Emma Mary born 18.3.1829 bap St Anne's Soho 24.2.1833 Roses St
Richard William born 15.5.1831 bap 24.2.1833

The couple seem to have married twice
Richard Smithson and Ann Platt 21.4.1822 St Anne's Soho and 14.10.1824 St George Bloomsbury

1841 no 1 Falconsbury St St Anne Soho
Richard Smithson 40 brush maker y
Anne 40 y
Lavina 15 y
Sarah 15 y
Anne 14 y
Emma 12y
Richard 10y

1851 Eve Place St Pancras Kentish town
Richard 50 toothbrush maker ST anne's Soho
Ann 51 St Martins in the Fields
Emma 22 tooth brush maker St Annes
Richard 19 brush maker St Mary Lambeth
Robert Denham visitor 22 journey man carpenter  Scotland

1861 6 Crown Place Kentish town Richard and Anne
1871 no 10 Dunford Place
Death Richard Smithson 1800-June 1886 Pancras 16 68

Will see what else I can find
Ciderdrinker

Thanks very much.
The death is correct, although I don't have an exact date.
Ann was buried with John (who died in 1897) at Bendigo, Donald is not far away and I assume she may have moved there with one of the children following John's death.
One question, why would they marry twice?

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Hi everyone.
I'm trying to trace two families whose children were married in Arlington on 23rd September, 1849.
The bride and groom's names were John Dunton and Ann Smithson and I think they were both born in London, I know that John worked as a bricklayer after emigrating to Australia if that's any help.
I can't find any information about their parents except that the fathers were John Dunton and Richard Smithson, and that both of their mothers may have been called Emma.
Thanks for any help.
Neil.

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