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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Workhouse record lookup request at LMA
« on: Thursday 07 July 16 03:45 BST (UK)  »
Hi Everyone

Thanks for the information, Carol how times have changed with the hospitals thank goodness! I'm guessing the Edgware hospital is still at the site of the old Redhill institution?

Thanks Steve for your kind offer to see if there is anyway around the dates on the Creed register at LMA. Can you explain the comment John made about the Edgware workhouse and Barnet so I get a better understanding of the records? I'd really like to track down what happened to her. She must have died somewhere and am trying to narrow down dates, as there are a lot of deaths for Mary Anne Jeffries and none really fit the bill exactly! At least I've made a leap forward from the census of 1911 to October 1913.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Workhouse record lookup request at LMA
« on: Wednesday 06 July 16 01:27 BST (UK)  »
Hi Everyone

A kind rootschat person suggested I post a request on this message board.

On Ancestry I located my grandmother Mary Anne Jeffries admitted into Edgware Workhouse on 28 August 1913 - discharged 6 weeks later, on 10 October 1913, at her 'own request' (indexed as Jeffress). No destination stated.

I'm trying to find out what happened to her in the end, but cannot find a death certificate yet.

She was born Mary Anne Smith c 1868/70 in Herts and married Albert Jeffries. She had 8 children, 2 of whom died, she was sent at least once to an inebriate reformatory and I'm trying to find out whether she went back into the workhouse after October 1913 or whether she may have been istitutionalised as she never returned to the family home, and my grandfather had to raise the family.

According to my relatives she left the family when my father was very young and they never saw her again (probably c 1911 or later?).She was put in an inebriate reformatory in Gloucestershire where my dad was born in 1905,but the 1911 census lists her at home in Hendon/Cricklewood with the family.

As I live in Oz and can't visit the LMA; is anyone willing to see if she is in a later Edgware workhouse (also called Redhill Institution) record held at London Metropolitan Archives, as part of the Hendon Board of Guardians series (BG/H)?


 

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Thank you so much for translating the information on the workhouse record for me, and finding her discharge a few weeks later! I'd looked but couldn't find her. I certainly will try a post in the  London and Middlesex lookups board for starters as I would dearly like to know what happened to my grandmother in the end.

Once again thank you for all your trouble in answering my questions and also finding her discharge.

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Hi Everyone

I've found my grandmother's Mary Anne Jeffries admission on Ancestry into Edgware Workhouse on 28 August 1913 - according to my relatives she left the family when my father was very young and they never saw her again. I think the workhouse record states she was ill and destitute but I'm not sure and it appears that there is a PO against by whose order she was admitted by? Is anyone able to enlighten me on what the PO stands for, would it be Police Order? She was put in an inebriate reformatory in Gloucestershire where my dad was born in 1905 and back at home according to the 1911 census in Hendon with her family. I have been trying to find out what happened to her, the record digitized on Ancestry has her admission but not a discharge, I'm wondering as the workhouses continued after 1913 whether there are other admission and discharge books for that workhouse in existence past 1913? Did people get transferred between workhouses and if so how would I track that down? If there is not a discharge for her would this indicate that she remained and perhaps died in the workhouse?

many thanks for any help anyone can provide to point me in the right direction about this. Unfortunately I can't visit any of the places that hold the records.

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Hertfordshire / Re: St Albans - help with a street name.
« on: Monday 02 May 16 00:27 BST (UK)  »
Great thanks I certainly will check this out. I'd kept the search around St Albans, but  guessed that she either died or got married and moved away, as she isn't the informant to her father's death when he died at the beginning of 1844. I would have expected that she would have been the informant if she was still living with him as she was a straw plaiter in 1841 census. So an 1843 marriage could well fit in and explain stuff.

Thanks so much for this, sometimes a new set of eyes is very useful.

cheers

Driftygirl

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Hertfordshire / Re: St Albans - help with a street name.
« on: Saturday 30 April 16 08:50 BST (UK)  »
Fantastic  - that helps with a bit more digging and great to confirm the st as Cross St. Many thanks for your help.

cheers

driftygirl

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Hertfordshire / Re: St Albans - help with a street name.
« on: Saturday 30 April 16 06:58 BST (UK)  »
Hi thanks very much for this, I suspect that it is Cross St then. My ancestor who died in 1844 is Henry Jeffries age 71 a fishmonger born c 1773 in Herts but I don't know where. I do know all his children found to date were born in St Albans (the Abbey or St Peters). He had 2 wives whom he outlived, Mary and Elizabeth. I know he had a number of children who died as children. He had a son also called Henry Jeffries (my gt grandfather) who was also a fishmonger perhaps apprenticed to his father? Henry Snr had two daughters Sarah and Caroline that survived childhood. Sarah married a William Balls at London Colney and William ends up becoming a fishmonger with Henry Jnr; I have a fair bit of information on Henry Junior, but nothing on Caroline.

cheers

Driftygirl

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Hertfordshire / St Albans - help with a street name.
« on: Friday 29 April 16 04:52 BST (UK)  »
Would some kind person who knows a bit about St Albans be able to tell me whether there is/was a street called Croft St? I have a death certificate for my Gt Gt Grandfather and I was sure it was Croft St, but now I'm wondering whether it is in fact supposed to be Cross St? The death entry is from February 1844. I can't seem to find Croft St at all on a current map but maybe the name has changed if it did exist?

many thanks

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Hi Jon

Yes I'd be very interested in the information, from trade directories and poll books, I don't have access to them as I'm in Oz. Where did you find the information on the 1818 parish map, that sounds really interesting?

cheers

Lilian

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