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Lincolnshire Lookup Requests / Re: Hotchkin - Turton Marriage 1834
« on: Monday 03 February 25 13:49 GMT (UK)  »
Appreciate this is an old topic, but I've recently put the research of my late father (Marcus Alywn Pattern) online and there are a couple of relevant pages:
https://pattern.onlinetree.uk/people/id-i102499066314/
https://pattern.onlinetree.uk/the-pattern-story/

regards
Dave Pattern

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Holmfirth pubs - Princess Royal (Rotcher Road) and Druid’s Hotel
« on: Friday 14 May 21 17:53 BST (UK)  »
The abovementioned book is now available to download for free:
https://www.holmfirthhistory.org.uk/books/

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: CHALLAND Family of Huddersfield (?)
« on: Sunday 24 May 15 20:10 BST (UK)  »
A bit more info about Mary Ann's parents...

Thomas seems to have a been a keen gardener and is named as a winner or runner-up in various local competitions. He worked as a commercial traveller for Mr. James North, of Kings Mill. He died in May 1855, aged 51, and was buried at St. Paul in Huddersfield on 30 May.

His wife, Mary, sank into a depression over his death and she took her own life on the afternoon of 18 July 1855, hanging herself from a stairwell banister. A verdict of "temporary insanity" was recorded at the inquest held the following evening.

Mary Ann is listed in the 1861 Census living in Leeds as a lodger at the house of police constable George Ramsden, 33 Templar Street, Leeds. Her occupation is given as "milliner".

As far as I can tell, Mary Ann never used her clairvoyant skills again after 1855.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: CHALLAND Family of Huddersfield (?)
« on: Sunday 24 May 15 18:11 BST (UK)  »
This is a bit of a late reply, but I came across Mary Ann Challand whilst researching the "Seed Hill Ghost" event of March 1855. In turn, that led me to an article detailing her involvement with the locating of the body of Sarah Ann Lumb earlier that year.

If you've managed to find any further details about Mary Ann, I'd love to know more!

Dave

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The Common Room / Re: Could Sir Alfred be a distant rellie?
« on: Saturday 24 May 14 08:19 BST (UK)  »
Just been looking to see if I can find anyone likely to be the Richard Pike who witnessed Charles & Sarah's wedding.

The most likely contender I found is Richard Pike (b. 1797), son of cooper Robert Pike and Elizabeth Pike née Richards (who married 1793 at St George's, Hanover Square). Richard was baptised on 14/Jan/1798 at St George in the East, Stepney, which is the same church as Sarah Ann Pike was baptised at. Richard likely died 13/Mar/1862 aged 64 in Southwark.

Apart from that, there don't seem to be that many Richard Pike's in London around that time. The only others I found were:

1) Richard Pike (b. ~1777). Married in 1806 to Bridget Fitzgerald (b. ~1777) at St George's, Hanover Square. Worked as a gardener and lived on Yeoman's Row, Brompton. Buried 17/Mar/1841 at Brompton Holy Trinity.

2) Richard Alexander Pike (b. 1796). Born 11/Oct/1796 and baptised 30/Oct/1796 at Christ Church, Spitalfields, Stepney. Son of warehouseman James and Mary Pike, living on Vine Court, Whitechapel.

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The Common Room / Re: Could Sir Alfred be a distant rellie?
« on: Tuesday 20 May 14 08:19 BST (UK)  »
Another find... Joseph Hitchcock and Jane Swadken had a daughter named Jemima Jane Hitchcock who was baptised 27/Nov/1836 at Saint Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey. Sadly, Jemima Jane died a couple of years later and was buried on 08/Dec/1839 at Saint Mary Magdalene.

It's a long shot but, assuming Joseph was Charles' brother (they were both born in Dedham a few years apart) and Joseph's wife Jane (who would have been pregnant with Jemima Jane at the time) was the witness at the wedding of Charles & Sarah Pike, I'm wondering if Joseph & Jane decided to name their daughter after Charles' first deceased wife (Jemima Spooner)? Possibly because Charles & Jemima had named their last child together Joseph?

I've still not been able to find anything definitive on Jemima Hitchcock née Spooner's death, but presumably she died between 1829 (when Joseph, Alfred Hitchcock's grandfather, was born) and 1836 (when Charles married Sarah Pike). Tantalisingly, there is an entry for what looks like "Jemmiah Hitchcock" (curse hard to read handwriting!) who was buried on 29/Sep/1835 in West Ham/Stratford. The given age is 33, which is a few years out as Jemima Spooner was baptised June 1796. However, I can't link this person back to anyone else in West Ham, so perhaps this actually is the recorded death of Charles' first wife?

The other children of Joseph & Jane were Jane Elizabeth Hitchcock (b. ~1826), Joseph Hitchcock (b. ~1828), Edward Hitchcock (b. ~1830), William John Hitchcock (b. ~1832) and Alfred Charles Hitchcock (b. ~1834).

Finally, if Jemima Spooner was Charles' first wife, then we can likely add Emma Hitchcock to the list of their children. She was baptised 29/Aug/1824 to a Charles & Jemima Hitchcock at St. Margaret, Barking, Essex. Barking is 4 miles east of Stratford and 8 miles east of Bermondsey.

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The Common Room / Re: Could Sir Alfred be a distant rellie?
« on: Saturday 17 May 14 11:32 BST (UK)  »
Angie -- have you come across Jemima Spooner (b. ~1796) as a contender for Charles' first wife? Someone on Ancestry has her marrying Charles on 02/Jun/1818 and that fits nicely with a record for the baptism of a Joseph William Hitchcock in 1830 in West Ham to parents Charles and Jemima Hitchcock (i.e. the Joseph who was Alfred Hitchcock's grandfather).

Jemima was baptised on 15/Jun/1796 in Great Wigborough, Essex, and her parents were Robert and Susana Spooner. This fits nicely with Charles' first two children being Susannah and Susan. There are probable death records for both of Jemima's parents in the Dedham/Lexden area.

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The Common Room / Re: Could Sir Alfred be a distant rellie?
« on: Saturday 17 May 14 09:08 BST (UK)  »
A quick follow up -- the Jane who married Joseph Hitchcock was Jane Swadken and the marriage took place on 03/Apr/1825 at Saint Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey (which was the same church where Charles and Sarah married).

Jane was baptised on 06/Jun/1805 at St Phillips, Birmingham, and was the daughter of John and Rachel Swadkin.

Also, I noticed that Charles wasn't able to sign his own marriage entry ("the mark of Charles Hitchcock"). If Joseph was Charles' brother, then possibly they were both illiterate and Jane (who did sign her own name) witnessed the marriage instead of her husband?

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The Common Room / Re: Could Sir Alfred be a distant rellie?
« on: Tuesday 13 May 14 22:19 BST (UK)  »
I’ve found a good contender for the Jane Hitchcock who witnessed the marriage. There’s a Jane (b. ~1805 in Birmingham and maiden name unknown) who married Joseph Hitchcock, who was born around 1804 in Dedham. They appear in the 1841-71 Censuses living in Bermondsey, Surrey. She died 1870 and he died 1879, both in the St Olave Southwark district. Their first child was born in 1828, so they were presumably married before then.

Joseph’s age and birth location could make him Charles’ younger brother.

However, I’m not sure why Charles would have his sister-in-law act as witness at his wedding, unless it was traditional to have a male and female witness and Sarah only had male relatives (i.e. Richard Pike)?

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