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Buckinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Look Up at Aylesbury for Knight
« on: Monday 25 September 17 20:00 BST (UK)  »
hi steve
I recall we did make contact some long while ago. You were in Welwyn I think. I am near Watford and Hemel.

I have been chasing other family lines and filling out family lives, but I have got no further back on the Knights except for speculating that John James's father may have been George b1808 d1870 (married to Mary Swain b 1805 d 1873) and was from Great Brickhill in Bucks.

Did you say that you are descended from JJKs brother George (married to Margaret Mathias) who perhaps had at least 2 children - Edward and George? Or like me are you descended from a son of John James K?

I'm especially interested in how this family established a connection with places very near to me (namely Hunton Bridge and Abbotts Langley).

There seems to be a horsey/cabbie connection throughout the 19th century until cars became more available to the wealthy class for whom they sometimes worked. I think around 1891 my GGF worked in the household of George B Kent (in Belgravia), the royal brush makers who now have a factory at Apsley very near to where I live! My GGF lived in Belgrave Mews and then (somehow) got to own a terrace in Bushey Heath that was called Hunton Cottages - before trying his hand at being a shopkeeper.

Even my GF (b1885) was horse mad and instructed some fancy folk in carriage driving (Prince Phillip style) and was a regular at Ascot and Goodwood. He took over the shop keeping.

regards John

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Buckinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Look Up at Aylesbury for Knight
« on: Wednesday 17 May 06 18:30 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Alli for the info ex 1851 census. I have found this family before but have been uncertain if it is the correct George and Mary (ie if they also had a son John James). I had made a note (Check for possible further daughter called Eleanor baptised on 20/6/1830 at Little Brickhill born to a George Knight - a horse keeper (ostler) - and wife Mary plus a son Edward baptised 23/5/1835 also at Little Brickhill). There are certain anomalies eg other siblings notably the whereabouts of John James Knight and Eleanor, and birthplace/christening location of son Edward (Little Brickhill v Abbotts Langley), Great Brickhill v Little Brickhill as George's birthplace. I'm trying to convince myself that there are not two George and Mary's albeit that childrens' names are similar and they may be related in any event. I have in mind a George of LB and a George of GB! Of course its not unknown for an infant death to be followed by the birth of another infant given the same first name or there to be 'confusion' as to birthplace and christening location.

Are you able to find John James Knight (married to a Louisa) and get a connection to this same family? Perhaps you can see two George and Mary's!

I fear I need more light on the Knight! Here's hoping you can find more. Thanks Jonno

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Buckinghamshire Lookup Requests / Look Up at Aylesbury for Knight
« on: Thursday 12 January 06 14:52 GMT (UK)  »
I'm still looking for some Knight info.

My research suggests my GGGF is John James Knight who was likely baptised at Fenny Stratford ca 1827, the son of George Knight (b Great Brickhill?? ca 1808) and Mary (nee Swain, b Stoney Stratford?? ca 1805) - as all found in Islington in 1861 census. Sibs of JJK might include Edward (b1835) George (b1836) and Ann (b1842) but surely there were more?

Can anyone confirm or clarify births of any of these, or add to this, by reference to local records? Any info would be very gratefully received. Regards John

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Buckinghamshire Lookup Requests / Knight - Fenny Stratford and Great Brickhill
« on: Wednesday 04 January 06 20:22 GMT (UK)  »
My research suggests my GGGF is John James Knight who was likely baptised at Fenny Stratford ca 1827, the son of George Knight (b Great Brickhill??) and Mary (nee Swain, b Stoney Stratford??) - as all found in Islington in 1861 census.

Can anyone confirm or clarify births of any of these, or add to this, by reference to local records? Any info would be very gratefully received. Regards John

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Hi Keith

Thank you so much. This has helped a lot. Regards John

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Cambridgeshire Completed Lookups / Re: Skippages in West Wratting
« on: Wednesday 19 October 05 18:19 BST (UK)  »
David

Many thanks for diligent and prompt reporting!!

The 1861 census result is fascinating as I reckon that Eliza had died in 1854 and by 1861 widower Charles (if it is the same one) had remarried Mary Barker (who may herself have been a widow) hence children of Mary's first marriage also at the same address. I wonder where she (Mary Barker) was in 1841 and 1851 (and presumably there is a death record of her first husband). Presumably any siblings of Caroline had moved on by 1861. I wonder where Charles and Eliza and family were in 1851.

[By coincidence a separate response to my several queries has revealed a Mary Barker marrying a Robert Skippage in 1834 - but when widowed (if that is the case) she would have been Mary Skippage upon any new marriage - wouldn't she?]. What chance Charles married his brother's widow?

I reckon that Stretchworth was home to several Skippage families and the 1861 census has kinda united them! Similarly there are the Hadstock Skippages and (if they are the correct parents of Charles) it seems that in 1841 John was settled in WW with wife Sarah. I had other potential parents as John and Susan (m 30Nov1810 at WW). If different, where were these 2 in 1841 etc, I wonder?

Thanks again for exploring all this. If you are inspired to look further then thanks again in advance.

Regards John

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Cambridgeshire Completed Lookups / Skippages in West Wratting
« on: Tuesday 18 October 05 21:29 BST (UK)  »
I'm after more details regarding Charles Skippage (married Eliza Twinn in 1841).
From preliminary census data:
It looks like the 1841 entry is
SKIPPAGE Charles 20 West Wratting HO107/71/12 13B
SKIPPAGE Eliza 20 West Wratting HO107/71/12 13B
Perhaps they got married just days before the census! But they are missing from 1851.

and this one looks interesting for 1851 - as potential parents of Charles (but where were these 2 in 1841?)
SKIPPAGE John 62 West Wratting HO107/1761 422A
SKIPPAGE Susan 62 West Wratting HO107/1761 422A

Perhaps Eliza Twinn's parents were in WW too (or nearby at Duxford possibly?)

Any help would be gratefully received.
Regards John

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Hi David
Wow - I had no idea that folk are so keen. I'm so pleased to get some help.
It looks like the 1841 entry is
SKIPPAGE Charles 20 West Wratting HO107/71/12 13B
SKIPPAGE Eliza 20 West Wratting HO107/71/12 13B
Perhaps they got married just days before the census! But they are missing from 1851.

and this one looks interesting for 1851 - as potential parents of Charles (but where were these 2 in 1841?)
SKIPPAGE John 62 West Wratting HO107/1761 422A
SKIPPAGE Susan 62 West Wratting HO107/1761 422A

Thanks for any help
regards John K


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Keith

Thanks for your enthusiasm. Burrough Green is about 3 miles NE of West Wratting. Regards John

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