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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: St Mary's Industrial School
« on: Sunday 11 May 14 10:25 BST (UK)  »
Clara Stone birth

Born 4 Feb 1897
Name Clara Stone - not present
Father: Charles H Stone, painter, 44, Manchester England
Married 22 Oct 1882 Timaru (can find no record of this)
Mother Clara Stone, formerly Wilson, 36, Ballycastle, Ireland
Registered: difficult to read - N?? Kilo?gton, Hawera
When registered: 18 Mar 1897

Charles Henry Stone death
25 July 1921 New Plymouth Hospital
Charles Henry Stone, painter
Age: 70
Cause: Fibro myocarditis 10 years; Pulmonary hypostasis 10 days
Buried 28 July 1921 Waitara
Minister G H Gavin? C of E
Born: Dover, Kent England - note not the same as on Clara's birth certificate
Years in NZ: 34 - so arrived about 1887, but supposedly married in Timaru in 1882
Parents: unknown
Marriage: unknown
Informant: undertaker at Waitara

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: St Mary's Industrial School
« on: Saturday 10 May 14 23:20 BST (UK)  »
There are 2 Charles Stones in Hawera - one is a farmer and the other is a painter and decorator. Charles Henry is the painter and seems to be the right one because he is often in trouble for illegal bookmaking, non-payment of maintenance, lives in boarding houses etc. I have all these newspaper records downloaded.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: St Mary's Industrial School
« on: Saturday 10 May 14 23:16 BST (UK)  »
BDM records
Clara Stone: 1897/931
Henry Stone: 1899/17373

I don't know about the New Zealand Society of Genealogist's Kiwi Index - not a member as yet.

Henry we do know about but we don't know about a Clara. But they obviously have the same parents. There is no death record for Clara Stone. I thought maybe the baby died before 1900 when the others were put in care. A Charles Henry died in New Plymouth hospital in 1921 having been living in Waitara (I have the death certificate) which fits the info I have from the census rolls about Charles Henry. There is no record of mother Clara Stone's death.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: St Mary's Industrial School
« on: Saturday 10 May 14 12:31 BST (UK)  »
I can find no record of Charles and Adelaide's birth but a Clara (not known about) and Henry were born to Charles Henry Stone and Clara Wilson in 1897 and 1899 respectively. My grandfather Charles has a different birth date on his marriage and death certificates.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: St Mary's Industrial School
« on: Saturday 10 May 14 12:17 BST (UK)  »
Great. Thanks for your speedy help. Are you saying that you will look up the file or that I can go to Wgtn to see it?

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New Zealand Completed Requests / St Mary's Industrial School
« on: Saturday 10 May 14 11:50 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

This is my first post so I hope I am doing things right. :) I am very excited because I have just found confirmation from Papers Past NZ Herald 8 Aug 1900 that my grandfather and his sister (Adelaide) and brother (Henry) were committed to St Mary's Industrial School. Charles Stone (my grandfather) was very secretive and although we had heard that he was in an orphanage, this is the first confirmation.

Here are some questions:

We believe Adelaide, Charles and Henry Stone lived in Hawera as my grandfather said he was born there. The Herald just says Mr H W Brabant was the presiding magistrate at the police court yesterday. Would that have been in Ak? Would it be normal for children from Hawera to be sent to Auckland?

Can I view the records of the Industrial school anywhere - Sisters of Mercy, Auckland? I will ring on Monday.

If they were sentenced in August, why is there a record of Adelaide Stone passing the Std 1 exam at Hawera school in Oct 1900?

There is no record of Adelaide or Charles birth, but Henry was born in 1899 if I have the right Henry. Would a child of only 1 be sent to an industrial school?

There is a record of my presumed great grandfather Charles Henry Stone being taken to court for non-payment of support for his children so I think I have the right parents.

Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

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