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Staffordshire / Re: Timmons and Wright Connection?
« on: Friday 20 April 18 19:07 BST (UK)  »
Hmm,

So hmm, that would be this church then:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_St_Editha,_Tamworth

A very good tip! I need to check with Timmins Guild of One Name Studies Admin (Tony Timmins) and see if has any ideas about this church...

Thank you Kate! Thank you Willow!

Zak

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Staffordshire / Re: Timmons and Wright Connection?
« on: Friday 20 April 18 17:00 BST (UK)  »
Kate and Willow,

Kate - you're very kind to post this query for me and our family group! :) :) :)

Willow - some background:

The Wrights we're talking about are the NY Flushing Wrights. R-M269#9 in the FTDNA Wright project.
https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/wright/about/background
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Wright?iframe=ycolorized

The Timmons/Timmins we're talking about are the R-M269#1 group in the FTDNA Timmons project.
https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/timmons/about
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Timmons?iframe=ycolorized

The George Wright, Kate is talking about, I have an Ancestry profile for here:

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/67935280/person/260083182179/facts

Some quick vitals:
born abt 1615 England (it's believed)
died abt 1684 Flushing, Queens, New York

It's believed he arrived in Salem, MA somewhere around 1635-1637. He became a "freeman" in Salem in 1637. Also granted land. In 1641, he joined the First Church of Salem.

He bumped around a lot. We see him in Rhode Island and other parts of Massachusetts. He operated a ferry. We then see him settling down by 1657 in Flushing, NY -- because we see him that year as one of the signers of the Flushing Remonstrance.

http://www.nyym.org/flushing/remons.html

Anyway, yes ... it's been determined that the NY Flushing Wrights and a large family of Timmons testers that came into Worcester, MD by 1682 are the same Y-DNA family group (as determined by STR markers Y37, Y67, Y111 -- a distant relation), and therefore have the same common paternal side ancestry -- likely back in England.  Prior (or just prior) to George Wright's generation, almost certainly.

It's looking like the Timmons line might be the true line going further back. The best clues we have so far are some UK Timmins testers ... one of whom claims *Timmins* ancestry going back to 1500's Staffordshire pretty continually to the late 1800's.

So yes, the idea that there was a George Wright born in Staffordshire around 1618. That's extremely interesting! :)

Where can I find that source?

Zak Jones
Volunteer admin - FTDNA Wright project (ftdna.wright@gmail.com)
Volunteer admin - FTDNA Timmons project (ftdna.timmons@gmail.com)
Facebook group - Wright Genealogy - https://www.facebook.com/groups/WrightSurnameFTDNA/
Facebook group - Timmons Genealogy - https://www.facebook.com/groups/TimmonsSurnameFTDNA/








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Warwickshire / Re: William Charles McEntee (father+son) early 1800's - Help, please.
« on: Thursday 10 November 16 22:42 GMT (UK)  »
Leah,

Nice to meet you cousin!

It's been a while since I've been on here. Seems I lost my old login too! :(

But yes, I've talked to your mom quite a bit already. :)

Zak (jazdrv)

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This (attached) is my ggg-grandfather William Charles McEntee (1823-1894) b.Dublin d.England


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Hi!

Thank you for your reply about your McEntee Irish lineage. And your comments about the other (possibly my) McEntee roots there. :)

I found this web site based on what you wrote (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentine_McEntee,_1st_Baron_McEntee)

Absolutely fascinating!

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So it would appear based on what you said, your line looks like this:
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- (your ggg-grandparents) Edward Alexander McEntee m. Eliza Church Stackpoole (b:?; d:1853; buried: Mt. Jerome Cemetery, Dublin)
   + (your gg-grandparents) Charles William Mcentee (physician) (b.? d?) m. Kate Williams Burchell (married: Church of Ireland)
       * Valentine la Touche McEntee, 1st Baron McEntee (b.1871 d.1953)
          m. (1) Elizabeth, daughter of Edward Crawford, in 1892
          m. (2) Catherine, daughter of Charles Windsor, in 1920
       * (your g-grandparents)  Henry Hugh McEntee (b.1869; joiner) m. Francis Henrietta Watchorn
          - (your grandparents) Kate Mcentee (b.1894, d.1973) m. _____ Lynch
            + (your father) (d.2015) (told you that there was another McEntee family in Dublin who weren't related)
          - 7 other siblings (on census)

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About my line:
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My ggg-grandfather (also named William Charles McEntee) was born in 1823 in Dublin. I suspect his father (not confirmed) had the same name and was also from Dublin.

FYI -- I believe if our families are connected --- the fact that yours were members of the Church of Ireland is consistent with how mine practiced their beliefs when they lived in Birmingham (where they were part of the Church of England).

...

So it would seem possible (despite what your father said) that our 2 lines are connected? Do you happen to have the birth dates for your ggg-grandfather Edward Alexander McEntee and your gg-grandfather Charles?

It would be intriguing if you could do a DNA test. An autosomal type test should confirm if we're indeed cousins going back to a 3rd/4th great grandfather or so.

Also, do you happen to have any further information about the other McEntee line that your father mentioned? ie: where they lived, church, parish, etc?

And curious ... may I ask where you live? I live in Scotland currently. I was just in Dublin (and North Ireland) a couple weeks ago doing some genealogy research. (on different roots than this one)

Zak

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Warwickshire / Re: William Charles McEntee (father+son) early 1800's - Help, please.
« on: Wednesday 21 October 15 14:27 BST (UK)  »
Hello, it's been some time since I've been asking for information on this topic. I believe I found the answer that I was looking for ... since I have a birth certificate that I successfully ordered for William (Guillermo) Charles McEntee (b.1865) where he was born in Kings Heath, Kings Norton, Worcester, England.  I also have autosomal DNA proof (ancestryDNA) that connects me to this line.

You're saying there was only one son. I'm confused though. I see that William Sr. had another son named Edward. And that William Jr. had a couple different sons as well (three different ladies in which he had children that I know of).

My ancestry profile for the son is:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/67935280/person/30173366909

My ancestry profile for the father is:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/67935280/person/30177976371

I'd love to see your tree too though! :)

Zak J.

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United States of America / Ebeneezer M. Cord (Feb 22 1806 to May 12 1888)
« on: Tuesday 22 July 14 17:42 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

I've had some good luck on here with some other questions I've put forth.

Here's another.

I have an ancestor that isn't so far back: Ebeneezer M. Cord (1806-1888). Born in New Jersey. Died in Easton, PA.

He married Anna Marie Leidich (Leidig). (1812-1879)

I haven't been able to find anything about Ebeenezer prior to to 1830 though. I do know that his father was from Pennsylvania and his mother from New Jersey according to an 1880 census.

I know nothing else.

It just recently dawned on me that the surname might have originally been McCord. And, that seems to fit as McCord's have a renowned place in early American history and there were a couple serving in the revolution, etc.

I did a search on Easton and McCord on google and it revealed the following attachment. If my theory holds true (that M. Cord = McCord), then perhaps the Joseph McCord and Sarah McCord mentioned here might be somehow related my Ebeneezer?

Problem is -- I'm not able to find anything further than this snippet and nothing else connecting these people.

Does anyone happen to have any other ideas on how to approach this?

Thanks for your consideration!

ZJ


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Thanks JDC.

I hadn't heard of that site or those databases. I'll check!

Zak

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Hello,

I've received excellent advice on this site priorly from very gracious and clever folks. So I figured I'd try this new issue out and see if anyone has any ideas.

We priorly had an obstacle where we couldn't figure out the parents for Charles William Jones (1864-1949). My original rootschat post: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=682166.0.

After some time running down clues and leads, we're feeling really solid that the parents are Erastus Smith Jones (1833-1914) and Mary Guiberson (1833-1874).

I've consolidated all my research on ancestry to these profiles:

Charles: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/67935280/person/30173515063
Erastus: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/67935280/person/30212528972
Mary: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/67935280/person/30212529487

Mary has an extremely interesting family with quite a story! Particularly, her father who was a methodist minister who brought the family (including Erastus and Mary and their children) to Ventura, CA:

https://sites.google.com/site/johnwguiberson/home (a particularly interesting read)
https://sites.google.com/site/johnwguiberson/index

Mary and her father have a Dutch/English background (among other things). But Erastus, it would appear has the more traditional Welsh-American background and story -- based on what I've read about the American Welsh waves on the wiki pages, etc. Erastus comes from Pennsylvania to California through Ohio/Iowa.

We have Erastus's death cert. He was born in Pennsylvania. And, we've been talking with people connected to the family who have discovered that he was born/came from the Wilkes-Barre/Luzerne Cty area.

The death cert also reveals a father of Jesse Jones and a mother of Mary ?. And, it does say "?" on the cert. Erastus, also on the cert, was born Oct 1, 1833.

Other things we've figured out -- likely, Erastus had a brother -- David Jones -- who had his own son, Johnathan C. Jones. We've learned some of these things from some other people doing their own independent, intense research on this family.

This is all we know.

Doing familysearch.org and ancestry.com searches do convey some information for Jesse Jones/Mary combos in that area and in PA in general. But, it's not an uncommon name combination. And it's impossible (insofar as we can find) evidence of children with a couple with those names.

We're curious if anyone on rootschat has any expertise on early PA history in that area? Maybe even with the Jones families and/or Welsh methodist communities there?

We'd appreciate any help we can get!

Zak J.


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