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Dublin / Re: Locating halpin of cork st
« on: Sunday 30 March 14 14:25 BST (UK)  »
Dathai, further to your post 26, which was

 "can i ask how you tie Owen Hoey born 1898 shot 1921 living with parents Owen Hoey and Catherine Mary Cunningham in 1901 to Joseph Hoey born Carrickmacross 1885 and the Halfpenny/Halpenny/Halpin's."

I now understand that Patrick Halpin/Halfpenny/Halpenny of Cork St,  was married to Margaret a sister of the Owen Hoey of Feahoe,Drumboory, who was the father of the unfortunate Owen Hoey who was shot.

I have not been able to find out how the Joseph Hoey, a cousin, resident with the Halpins/Halpennys in 1911 was related.

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Dublin / Re: Locating halpin of cork st
« on: Saturday 29 March 14 17:23 GMT (UK)  »
A bit more on Patrick Halpin , born 1901, of Cork St (The one who had been, aged 10, with his gran in Drumboory, Co Monaghan in 1911 as Patrick Halfpenny). He joined Fianna Eireann,"6" Sluagh, 1ad Cath, in late in 1915 or early 1916.
On Easter Monday, 1916, they paraded in Donore Avenue. On the Tuesday he went to the garrison in Jameson's Distillery, Marrowbone Lane and was sent to collect ammunition from 42 Ruben St. For the remainder of the week he delivered messages. He stayed on in the Fianna. In 1920, he joined the Volunteers, C Company, 4th Batt.
So Halpins dairy in Cork Street would have been a good place for the fugitives from Jacobs garrison, to seek refuge.

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Dublin / Re: Locating halpin of cork st
« on: Saturday 29 March 14 15:23 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks also to Taramcdsmall, for the leads to what may be Patrick Sr as Halpin in Rialto Cottages in 1901 and as Halfpenny in Guinness from1895. It not clear why all the name changes.

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Dublin / Re: Locating halpin of cork st
« on: Saturday 29 March 14 09:46 GMT (UK)  »
Dathai, again many thanks. I am not sure yet how Joseph Hoey fits in except he was in Halpin's house in Cork St in 1911.
I am checking on the family relationship between the Halpins/ Halfpenny/Halpenny and the Hoeys.

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Dublin / Re: Locating halpin of cork st
« on: Friday 28 March 14 17:56 GMT (UK)  »
AaaHa another name change, No wonder I did not find it. many thanks Dathai.

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Dublin / Re: Locating halpin of cork st
« on: Friday 28 March 14 17:41 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks again Dathai, for some reason I cannot find a Patrick Halpenny in Drumboory in the 1911 census. Any idea where I might be going wrong.?

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Dublin / Re: Locating halpin of cork st
« on: Friday 28 March 14 17:18 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks Private1st Class and dathai for the new information. I had not read the posts when I made my last post.
Yesterday I went to 79 Cork St and 6 Dolphins Barn Street and was surprised that the two buildings are still standing!

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Dublin / Re: Locating halpin of cork st
« on: Friday 28 March 14 17:02 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Dathai, yes that seems to be Bernard Halpenny from Cork St.  Its very useful to know when he died. 

The 1911 census revealed the interesting fact that Bernard, aged 11, could read and write both English and Irish. Of the 12 people in the house,  only two, Bernard and his sister ( aged 12) could read and write Irish. Obviously they were attending Irish classes.
 I do not know for sure how Bernard died. I am not aware that any of the Halpins were shot, although it they were active on the Republican side.
Private 1st Class refers to a Halpin being shot by the IRA. I think that the person who was shot by the IRA may have been Owen Hoey, who I understand was a cousin of the Halpins. Owen was shot and killed by the IRA on James Walk, on the 28th July 1912, within weeks of the Truce on the 11th July. He was presumably shot because he was a Constable in the Royal Irish Constabulary. He was based somewhere outside Dublin. He was on his way from Kingsbridge Station when he was shot. There are different theories as to where he was going. One suggestion was that he was going to propose to his girlfriend, another that he was going to visit his sister and the other was that he was going to visit the Halpin family in Cork St.
But back to the original question, relating to Patrick Halpenny/ Halpin. He does not appear in the 1911 census when he would have been 10 years of age. Any views on where one can find out more?

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Dublin / Re: Locating halpin of cork st
« on: Thursday 27 March 14 15:43 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks Dathai The plot thickens. It seems that the family changed addresses somewhere between 1911 and 1915. I suspect 1914. In 1911 (see census 1911) the family name seems to have been Halpenny and they lived in 6 Dolphins Barn St. They seem to have bought the dairy on 79/80 Cork St in approximately 1914 and the name they used over the door was Halpin.
The elder Halpenny/Halpin, according to the 1911 census did work in Guinness as a drayman. I found no trace of them in the 1901 census

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