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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Irish ancestors Ward and Ryan
« on: Saturday 20 August 22 21:30 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much for that information.  I will do some more Irish searching and see if I can get a birth and/or death date for Michael's and Anne's parents, but at least we know who they were. Wouldn't a trip to Ireland be great!  My husband has Irish roots as well.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Irish ancestors Ward and Ryan
« on: Saturday 20 August 22 04:23 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone,
Just a bit of background. My husband and I decided to do a little winter time ancestry research into our families great grandparents roots.   Hence my questions about the Wards.

I know a lot about Michael and Anne (Annie) when they came to Australia, their family and where they lived, etc. but was wondering about their Irish history.   

I have been busy the past couple of weeks with family things, but I did find a letter from my mother's box cousin, who said that a lot of Irish records had been lost in a fire.   So that may explain why we are unable to find out for sure the names of parents.

When I said I was unsure of some facts, this was the generation I was talking of (e.g. Michael's mother is either Doolan or Dolan and Anne's mother either Connor or Connelly).   The father's names are listed on their marriage certificate but not the mothers.

Anne opened a shop in Melbourne and cared for her family there - they were never taken into care.   By all accounts she was a generous, loving and well-respected parent and member of the community.

In all our searching, we have found that some countries have detailed records that stretch back a long time, but others are more difficult to trace and we accept that we may never be able to fill in all details, with sometimes just a name being all we can do.

I have received some information from my cousins in Australia as well.   Anne definitely had a brother Patrick (Pat) who came to Australia.   He never married and we have his death details.   One sheet of paper I have lists Anne's parents as John Ryan and Ellen Connelly and their children as Anne 1856, Patrick 1859, Michael 1860 and John, no DOB.   Anne and Patrick are recorded as being born in Athlone, County Roscommon, Ireland, but no record of the other two.   Knowing how ancestry facts can get mixed up I have to say that the last two children may not be correct.

Thank you again for all your research and taking time to send the information you have.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Irish ancestors Ward and Ryan
« on: Wednesday 10 August 22 04:21 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for the information.   I am in the process of looking up Church records - it takes a while!
I was looking at a map of Ireland and did wonder if those towns crossed borders, although it was always spoken of as Roscommon where my great grandparents came from.
I was interested to see that they seem to have been marked down as English on the ship list, but were definitely Irish.   There is still no record of them arriving in Australia on line and as I live in New Zealand I cannot access information any other way.   
Oh well, it is all part of the fun of ancestry searching.

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Family History Beginners Board / Irish ancestors Ward and Ryan
« on: Monday 08 August 22 22:16 BST (UK)  »
My Irish ancestors immigrated to Australia.   I have the following details (which may be slightly incorrect).
Michael Ward.  Born Ballinasloe, Roscommon about 1857. Parents Michael Ward and Bridget Doolan (or Dolan).   He went to Australia before 1882, as this was the date of his marriage in Melbourne.

Anne Ryan.  Born Athlone, Roscommon about 1857.   Parents John Ryan and Ellen Connor (or Connelly).

I have a copy of what seems to be the immigration details for Annie 20, with John 26, Katherine 23 and Pat 18 on the Northumberland in May 1878.   However I cannot find confirmation of these details when searching the ship's records.

Perhaps there are some family members who have the correct details for Michael and Anne and their parents.   From a letter written to my mother from her cousin, there was a relative of Anne's living in Moore, Roscommon.

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Down / Re: James Taylor
« on: Thursday 09 June 22 04:35 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for the information about Hugh.   Hugh and Jane remained in the Protestant religion in NZ, however their grandson married a Catholic girl in Christchurch in about 1900.   A real mix!   It is a pity the marriage certificate only has Hugh's father named - the poor mother didn't get a mention.

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Down / James Taylor
« on: Tuesday 07 June 22 22:31 BST (UK)  »
Hi Rootschatters,

My husband is researching his family at present and we are looking at his great grandfather's parents. Our search has turned up a James Taylor of Downpatrick or Killinchy, with a headstone inscription that says he died in 1859 aged 73.   This inscription is very difficult to read, so we are not exactly sure that what we have is correct.
He possibly had a son, Hugh Taylor born in 5/11/1829 in County Down, married in 1860 to Jane Hay McKee Osborne in Killinchy.   Hugh and Jane came to New Zealand and are both buried in Christchurch.  If he is the James from the headstone, he would have been 43 when he had Hugh.

We have a good history of Jane's parents, but Hugh's are eluding us.   Hugh's marriage certificate just says his father is "James Taylor" but that is a fairly common name.  We have looked at some records but there seems to be a gap in the years that are probably important.

We believe James married a Jane (maybe Ormandy).   However we don't want to go off down the wrong path, as these people may not be the parents of Hugh.

Some Irish genealogy sites charge for information, which is okay if you are fairly sure that it would confirm the person but could be expensive to just "search".

Any ideas of where to go next would be gratefully received.

Whosthatchick

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: KAINES family of Guernsey
« on: Sunday 20 March 22 01:58 GMT (UK)  »
Family trees are so complicated some times!   However it does make for interesting research.   I am now trying to find information about William Heal's first wife, Elizabeth and in particular where her parents came from, so some happy hunting coming up.

All the best for your searches.

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: KAINES family of Guernsey
« on: Friday 18 March 22 19:58 GMT (UK)  »
I have just seen your page.  I have a Kaines in my family tree - Louisa Kaines married William Heal in 1867.   She was my great grandmother's step-mother.   Don't know if she is related to your family, but you mentioned a "gap" in your tree and as they came out to New Zealand I wondered if this could be what you are looking for.
Cheers.

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South Africa / Re: Redman birth
« on: Monday 21 December 15 19:38 GMT (UK)  »
Awesome thanks.   Henry, Agnes and Rhoda fit the bill and their arrival date of 1879 would be perfect, as Rhoda was born in 1877.   Agnes had a mother called Ann and a brother called Alexander and given those times, it would probably have been the brother giving surety.

One of the interesting parts of family search is finding the many "family myths" that abound.   I guess in old times they didn't discuss the past they way we do with our children, so these stories grew up and became the "truth" even though there was no intention to tell lies.   The other family story is that Agnes was born in the Channel Islands, but now have a record of her birth in Greenwich and Henry being a clerk would tie in with the fact that we could not find any records of him as a doctor.

I will try the facebook site you suggested.   

Merry Christmas.

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