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Lanarkshire / Re: Richard PATTERSON & Sarah BROWN
« on: Sunday 13 April 25 13:50 BST (UK)  »
Anyone fancy having a bash at finding Jane McNaught for me - I have looked at every option that I can think of. Given that her son Richard is living with his grandmother Sarah in 1901 I can only assume that she died before 1901 - As his father was a seaman its unlikely that he would take his wife with him right ?

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Lanarkshire / Re: strachan and Martin of Hamilton, Scotland
« on: Saturday 08 March 25 12:30 GMT (UK)  »
Yes I’ve traced her and her husband and kids but can’t find an ending for her mother or her brother or sister

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Lanarkshire / Re: strachan and Martin of Hamilton, Scotland
« on: Saturday 08 March 25 08:44 GMT (UK)  »
Would anyone be able to help me finish off this puzzle.

I now have a confirmed death date for James Strachan. When he died Robert Martin was married to Elizabeth Wright (they married 1829) and had 3 kids

Mary Lucan Martin - I have all her details. No Idea where the Lucan part came from.

John Martin - Born in Hamilton, Lanarkshire on the 7th of November 1830 - He appears on the 1841 Census in Hamilton but then I can't find him.... can anyone help?

Elizabeth Martin born in Hamilton on 3rd of June 1832 - She wasnt on the 1841 census so assume she died young - can anyone help?

Robert Martin married james's widow margaret Strachan (maiden name Harris) in 1834. But what became of Elizabeth Wright. The logical thing to think would be that she also died between 1831 and 1834 however she later turns up on on eof the granchildren's death certificates (which i now can't find)

Any help would really be appreciated

Paul


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Lanarkshire / Re: strachan and Martin of Hamilton, Scotland
« on: Friday 07 March 25 16:40 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you very much for all your help

Now I have a birth and death date for him - I just need to work out who his parents really were - Nothing listed about his little brother Peter either and no approx age for him which would have been helpful. If I could have found parents that matched both....


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Lanarkshire / Re: strachan and Martin of Hamilton, Scotland
« on: Friday 07 March 25 16:12 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Forfarian & anyone else helping.....

3rd of February 1831

Since I began compiling my family tree, some twelve years ago, the final fate of my Great Great Great Grandfather James Strachan has eluded me.

I've finally broken down that brick wall almost by accident. I feel elated and sad all at the same time.

James was born in Hamilton, Lanarkshire in 1800. He lived with his family in New Wynd. A slum by todays standards but probably a pretty normal standard of living back then. He was a shoemaker to trade just like his father.

I knew already that he died young. His wife Margaret brought up their son Peter alone before eventually remarrying. There is no death certificate for James. Death registration wasn't a legal obligation in the UK until 1855 and it cost money. The Strachan's had none.

Tonight, while looking through old digitalised newspapers online I accidentally came across his story. I guess this is his gift to all of our long frustrated family. He's fed up being forgotten and wants his story to be told.

While severe winters and snow storms are common in Scotland, the Winter of 1830/31 was characterised by no such storms. At the time 'Gardeners Societies' started springing up in Scotland. The purpose was a general need amongst working men to secure sickness benefits, pensions and provision for their dependants. Non-gardeners could join most lodges. They were called 'free gardeners' and soon they out-numbered working gardeners. All through the 19th century they continued to found lodges and made up their own rituals and practices, which helped unite the brethren of each lodge.

On the 3rd of February 1831 four men left Hamilton with the intention of travelling to New Cumnock to inaugurate a lodge of free gardeners there. James Wright and George Henderson were weavers to trade and James Strachan and his younger brother Peter were shoemakers, then all members of the Hamilton Olive Lodge.

The journey would be taken by foot and a route was planned from Hamilton via Strathaven and Muirkirk. The journey was estimated to be around 18 hours. Before they reached Strathaven several showers of snow had fallen and it was beginning to gather. They pushed on. They reached Haws Toll and enquired about the safety of continuing but were assured that the 'shillers' (snow plough/road clearers) were out in front of them. The road towards Muirkirk runs southward and is bleak and unforgiving. An ice cold wind attacked them directly with its full force. Henderson and the younger Strachan became ill and both cried out for water. They were given some spirits to drink from a bottle. They continued to walk for 7 miles. It was pitch black and the snow was heavy. It was too late to go back and too late to forge forward. They stopped to rest, hoping they could continue shortly but the darkness overcame them all.  Wright was woken some three hours later by James Strachan who had become delirious, his legs heavy with fatigue. The moon was rising and Wright saw that it was 1am. He found Henderson lying on his back breathing heavily, his pet terrier pressed against his body, sharing their heat. He looked up and saw the light of a fire in the distance - a farmhouse - and he made his way to get some aid. John Gibson and his wife owned the farmhouse - Linnburn. John dressed and fetched a neighbour to go to the aid of the men. They arrived back some time later with an unconscious Henderson and both of the Strachan's bodies. When Henderson awoke some time later, three days of his memory were gone. Never to return.

The news of the deaths spread like wildfire and people came from all over to offer help. The bodies were coffined and prepared for return to Hamilton. However it wasn't until the Sunday afternoon that news reached Hamilton - A man travelling from Cumnock to Airdrie carried the message. Amongst the first enquirers he met was Margaret Strachan and to lessen the blow she was about to receive he told her that it was the two weavers who had died and that the two Strachan men were alive.

Henderson and the two dead bodies were brought to Hamilton by cart while Wright made the journey back by foot. The Strachan brothers were buried in the Old Church Yard in Hamilton and a stone erected by their 'brother' gardeners bearing an inscription explaining the circumstances of their deaths.

James and Margaret's son Peter (my great great grandfather) went on to enlist in the 71st Regiment and fought in the Crimean War as well as the Indian Mutiny.

George Henderson never fully recovered and died two years later.

James Wright lived a long life in Hamilton but never forgot his friends. He went to the spot his 'brothers' died every year on the anniversary. He did this for a full fifty years. His last visit being 3rd of February 1881. The Gibson family left the farmhouse but their son became land lord of the Eglington Arms Hotel in Muirkirk.

Margaret Strachan went on to marry Robert Martin in 1834, a shoemaker and friend of her late husband.

Finally James Strachan and his brother Peter are remembered 194 years after their death.

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Lanarkshire / Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« on: Sunday 23 February 25 09:46 GMT (UK)  »
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Lanarkshire / Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« on: Sunday 23 February 25 09:43 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks once again

I would never have found this information on my own.

I'm pleased Grace lived a life and didn't die as a child like I first suspected.

I'm going to try and track down some living relatives in the hope there are some old family photos.

The prison term was for one month - Looking athe charge it looks like assault. I'm sure there is a story there too...I've attached the entry record.

Paul


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Lanarkshire / Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« on: Saturday 22 February 25 17:17 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you very much.

I've researched James Clyde and Agnes and daughter Grace this afternoon so If you want any of those certificates which i have paid for and downloaded then I am more than happy to share with you if it helps someone else.

Let me know and I can send them over

Paul

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Lanarkshire / Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« on: Friday 21 February 25 23:01 GMT (UK)  »
AncestryFinder

Thank you so much for this. You have no idea what a gift this is.

Up until now I have never found Grace. I have no idea how you managed to find this information but I'm stunned and really really pleased.

Thank you once again

Paul

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