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The Common Room / Re: Help needed finding a needle in a haystack.
« on: Tuesday 25 September 18 21:01 BST (UK)  »
Hello, Mary Ann Short/Mary Short/Mary Louisa Short is my 3rd great aunt and I along with some other cousins have been researching her for a long time.  But its been a while since we visited her again and this thread definitely brings her into the forefront again!  She seems to have changed her name and probably her age to suit her circumstances.  Thank you to all for your contributions and I look forward to following and hopefully contributing to this chat too.  I will pass on this thread to a cousin who did a lot of research... it will be interesting to see what she says too.
The probate record for Charles Hamilton Broadwood states that he had effects under 2,000 pounds.

Angela

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Agnes Mary BURNS and Agnes Montgomery MCEWAN - are they the same person?
« on: Tuesday 27 March 18 00:50 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Lu.

Angela

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Agnes Mary BURNS and Agnes Montgomery MCEWAN - are they the same person?
« on: Monday 26 March 18 23:48 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Lucy, I couldn't find it.  I really appreciate your help.

Angela :)

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Agnes Mary BURNS and Agnes Montgomery MCEWAN - are they the same person?
« on: Monday 26 March 18 22:58 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lucy, Do you have a copy of the full Obituary for Janet McEwan nee Bowman.  She is my 3rd great grandmother?  If so can you tell me where you found it please?

Thank you

Angela



Quote from: Lucy2 on Friday 02 September 11 06:18 BST (UK)
OBITUARY  -- Mrs Isaac McEWAN  [ Janet McEWAN ]

["NZ Herald" (Auckland) - 14 June 1904 ]

"Amongst fast thinning ranks of old colonists few were better known in the early days than the late Mrs Isaac McEWAN whose death at the age of 94 took place on Sunday last.   Deceased arrived in the "Duchess of Argyle" on October 10, 1842 with her husband, and daughter, born a month before leaving Glasgow.
Her descendants now number 74 comprising 4 * children, 36 grandchildren and 34 great grandchildren.

Mrs McEWAN's first residence was a tent but her husband ( who died about 40 years ago) soon erected a baker's oven and carried on for many years a successful business nearly opposite the present BNZ**.
Mrs McEWAN with the energy that characterised so many of these old settlers continued the business of her husband, successfully for some time.

One son and one daughter still reside in Auckland - Mr Andrew McEWAN of Hesketh's Store in Queen Street, and Mrs OTTO of Collingwood Street.   Her eldest son Mr Robert McEWAN was killed by the natives on one of the South Sea Islands many years ago.

The deceased is to be laid beside her husband in the Symonds Street Cemetery this afternoon."
                       *  *  *   *  *  *  *  *  *

[Notes:  *  The obit stated 4 (four) children - even though the d/c records additional "living issue".
**   BNZ refers to the "Bank of New Zealand" building.  ]

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Agnes Mary BURNS and Agnes Montgomery MCEWAN - are they the same person?
« on: Monday 26 March 18 21:55 BST (UK)  »
Hi Louisa,

I am one of the people trying to unravel this mystery.  Would it be possible please to obtain a copy of the marriage certificate which you have? 

Thank you

Angela

Quote from: louisa b on Friday 12 August 11 03:35 BST (UK)
OK, have the marriage certificate in front of me

witnesses
J. M. Barnes  very flamboyant squiggles around the initials but I think it's J M (and definitely not BURNS) and
E. Brown

I wonder if the Rev. William John Dean was Presbyterian?
there is no mention of the religion on the cert

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Agnes Mary BURNS and Agnes Montgomery MCEWAN - are they the same person?
« on: Thursday 22 March 18 13:08 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you to all for your help in uncovering this mystery.... I too am related to Agnes McEwan.  She is my 3rd great aunt.  I have been trying to unravel this mystery and in touch with a Shattock descendant in Australia so now I can tell him what all of you have helped to find out.  Thank you Thank you Thank you!

These ancestors who changed their names....  I have another one and I'm working on that now too...

Angela

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Voyage out conditions. - Publications
« on: Thursday 08 January 15 16:15 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Alan.

Angela





Quote from: Fresh Fields on Monday 24 February 14 09:26 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Fresh Fields on Saturday 22 February 14 19:47 GMT (UK)
Hello again.

The book which I have photocopied and laminated extracts out of for display at reunions etc is THE STORY OF NEW ZEALAND by Bassett, Sinclair and Stenson pages 58 to 61. Most came out as assisted "steerage class" passengers. There is an illustration of how crowded the sleeping quarters were, how they were arranged on the "SS BOLTON of 540 tons 1841" separating the single M & F passangers, sick bay, couples, families etc. A family of parents and four children would all have to fit in an allocated 1.8 x 2.4 metres sleeping enclosure. On a voyage of the "LLOYDS" to Nelson in 1842, 65 children died on the way out. This was possibly one of the worst cases, not helped by whooping cough spreading through the ship.

There is a big list plus cost of the Emigrants' outfit required. [Clothing, bedding, utensils etc per person] Also the daily food ration allocated for one adult, not something you would choose to live on today, but fascinating reading.

No time to look it up now, but the Lloyd's Shipping Register I assume, would give a description of the vessels registered and insured therein.

- Alan.

PS As Angela has now advised that she does not live in NZ I have scan ed the pages referred to, and forwarded by PM. I won't share them here because of issues re copyright.

For those living in NZ the books should be obtainable, upon request, at City Libraries.

- Alan.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Re: Paisley Emigration Society – Scottish Colonisation Company.
« on: Tuesday 06 January 15 18:30 GMT (UK)  »
My ancestors names were listed on the ships manifest as McEwing, Isaac, Janet and Margaret.  But their name is McEwan.  That Scots accent got misunderstood I guess...

I have great admiration for my ancestors.  I noticed that in one post it mentions a few things about the assissted passengers - rations etc.  Very interesting, thank  you.

Angela ;D

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Duchess of Argyle
« on: Sunday 23 February 14 13:55 GMT (UK)  »
Alan, I am amazed at it being such a little ship - the frontage of our property where our home is in Frankfort, Illinois is bigger than that!  I have more and more admiration for my ancestors as I learn more about them and the living conditions they left behind in Scotland and the living conditions which they went to - They were truly very brave and courageous people.  And to think that they took their 4 month old daughter with them on the Duchess of Argyle and that she was 8 months old when she arrived in New Zealand! 

Alan I am truly indebted to you.  Thank you.

Angela :)


Quote from: Fresh Fields on Sunday 23 February 14 08:59 GMT (UK)
Went looking for more stats on the Duchess, and came up with these, that I apparently have never gone to the trouble to record in my saved notes before.

Duchess of Argyle 123' 8" long, 24' 5" wide and 19' 9" deep. This reference quoting 523 tons old measure 667 tons new measure.

Duchess of Argyle hits :-

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/MARINERS/2002-05/1021710854

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ourstuff/DuchessofArgyle.htm

http://www.otago.ac.nz/library/pdf/hoc_fr_bulletins/14_bulletin.pdf

The passenger list one you have possibly seen before. The Otago University one gives a great list of titles that can be researched in support of info about the early shipping.

- Alan.

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