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Galway / Re: Wakefield - Ireland/New Jersey/Toronto
« on: Thursday 14 July 16 18:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lisa,

It is entirely possible that we have communicated in the past. I have been researching the Ovens surname for many years and sometimes loos track of contacts. I am very sorry to hear about the loss of the Bible, i would have been shaking with excitement if I were to ever get my hands/ eyes on it.

From DNA research on the Ovens Y chromosome (male) we have found that the particular branch of the human Y chromosome tree that we belong to did originate someplace in the area of the Netherlands / Southern Denmark / North-Western Germany.

It is possible that your particular branch of the Ovens family did remain in the Holland area and did not come over until the time period of the "glorious revolution"  as part of William of Orange's forces. That being said, I have found records of the Ovens surname in England and Scotland as early as the 1550s.

I do agree that it appears that the events of the "glorious revolution" do appear to be the driving force behind the arrival of the Ovens family in Ireland. I have not found any record of the family in Ireland until after 1689. The earliest record in Ireland that I  have found is a burial in 1695. They are very heavily concentrated in the Fermanagh area along the western shores of lower Lough Erne.

I haven't yet been able to establish a direct paper trail between my branch and the branches in Scotland/ England other then some circumstantial ties between the Ovens family and some of the Landed families in Ireland who were came over from Scotland as part of the plantation. These same Scottish landed families come from the same areas of Scotland where I find the heaviest concentrations of Ovens. It is also documented that historically speaking a large amount of the non native Irish found in Fermanagh Ireland did immigrate from Scotland. I am pretty confident that they did come over from either England or Scotland either as part of William of Orange's forces or shortly after the war ended as part of a re-population effort.

I hope this makes sense and that I haven't bored you to tears with all of this. I look forward to hearing back from you. have a great day and happy hunting, Kyle S. Ovens

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Hello Lisa,

I have collected some decent information about DNA testing for genealogical purposes and dedicated a portion of the ovensfamily.net web page to the subject, If you are so inclined you could review some of the information there (http://www.ovensfamily.net/#!ovens-dna-project/cazc) and then make an informed decision. I hope you find it helpful.

FTDNA tests tend to be a little more expensive then Ancestry or 23 and me but, do seem to provide  more thorough information along with the option to upgrade the test later without having to submit a new sample. I wouldn't worry too much about the number of participants with a particular testing agency. Once you receive the results you can obtain a digital file of the data and upload it to gedmatch.com which is a site which allows results from all of the various testing agencys to be pooled and queried.    I have attached a screenshot showing a quick overview of what the FamilyFinder results would look like from FTDNA. I also attached a screenshot of my Ancestry DNA results so you can get an idea.  Keep in mind these are combined results of maternal and Paternal lines and neither testing agency provides an indication about which results are from your mother vs. Father. You would have to order individual more specific tests to get those types of results. The DNA info page I mentioned at the beginning of this post provides some information about the various types of tests.

I hope this is helpful and not info overkill. Have a great day, Kyle S. Ovens

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Galway / Re: Wakefield - Ireland/New Jersey/Toronto
« on: Thursday 14 July 16 16:15 BST (UK)  »
To Lisa in California,

My name is Kyle S. Ovens, I am an armature genealogist who has been researching the Ovens surname for many years now. I have traced my particular branch of the family from the USA to Ireland where they began to appear sometime between 1670 and 1695. Prior to being in Ireland the family had a presence in both Lowland Scotland (mostly Midlothian) as well as parts of South western & central England.

In one of your posts you mentioned "I talked to my mum, She remembers looking through the Ovens family bible when she was young." I would be extremely interested in any information you could share about your particular branch of the Ovens family and especially any info you might have on the whereabouts of the family Bible you mentioned.

My goal is to collect as much information about the Ovens surname as is possible in one place; www.ovensfamily.net I also have both a Facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/557422481015699/) and page for the Ovens surname as well as 2 Ovens trees on Ancestry.com.
In addition to this I have access to multiple Ovens DNA results and have had the Big Y test conducted on myself to trace the origins of the male line back as far as possible. When funds permit I plan to subsidize the testing of Ovens from other branches of the family. I would be happy to share any information you might be interested in. As you can see I am more then a little interested in researching Ovens and linked surnames.

I look forward to your reply,
Kyle S. Ovens

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Fermanagh / Re: John Ovens of Drumbadmeen
« on: Wednesday 29 January 14 04:41 GMT (UK)  »
You may have already seen this but, just in case it proves to be helpful; I recently found a http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/fermanagh/cemeteries/slavin-graveyard-plot-1.txt of about 30 Ovens Buried at the Slavin church Cemetery, some of the transcriptions include family relation such as wife or son, the others can be inferred with a reasonable sense of validity.

Also as I am on Ovens and researching this surname as thoroughly as possible has become my mission; I have created a web page in the hope of attracting other Ovens (and related families) together in one place to pool our knowledge and fill in the gaps/ connect the various branches of the Tree. Our goal is to create one Ovens tree containing as much information as possible about the Ovens Surname and Tree in one place. the web page is less then a month old but, coming alon nicely. Please visit us at www.ovensfamily.net if you are interested in joining us.

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