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What made me type mum's name in the search box and come back here again I will never know but here I am
It was a summers day mum was sat in the green chair by the fireplace near the cupboards (usually dad sat here) it was sunny and the front door was open. She was knitting and I was playing on the old green hearth rug. How and why I asked the question I will never truly remember but I have this feeling it was something to do with her sister that had passed between mum and dad and being a kid I asked the question. She told me not to ask again and as a child I did as I was told. The reason it sticks in my mind is that the answer itself put an end. Sure I was curious and I have never stopped being. Sure I want to know but I told her I wouldnt enquire again and I aint going to heaven (I hope) and finding mum waiting there to give me a rollocking......no chance.
Bearing in mind all the brothers and sisters dad had it has always seemed more than odd that no one knows NOTHING......they must have done and we have hit a very well constructed brick wall.
Lastly losing Len tore me up more than you would think. We were never really close I admit that but he was always there.then suddenly he was gone. The family has never been close and that is all our faults.....love you all

Annie told me she was born in Rochdale. She also said she had a sister and a brother.
We all did as your nana requested regarding her family....dont ask. So we as good children did just that.
She worked for a time on oxford Road Manchester where she met Ivan. Annie was not the type you pushed a question with but it does seem strange that Ivans side of the family dont {or wont} seem to know much. Maybe asking Judy in Lydbrook will lead a clue as Fred was close to my dad before his death. The only other family member who dug into our history was Ivan and his wife still retains those records I believe.
Good luck Andy but if Annie wanted it buried she would have done a good job about it.....