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The Lighter Side / Re: Disappearing Bodies!
« on: Sunday 27 April 14 20:31 BST (UK)  »
Hi all and thank you for all the advise. So, forst of all I have Thomas' death certificate so I know he died in the village here. I also know that Thomas and Hannah did indeed marry, as Hannahs name on her marriage cert to John Hainswprth is Emmet.

I also noticed a gap in the records at St Peters. I have bought the Cd Rom from Genuk but unfortunately it contains just burial transcripts. As interesting as that source is im afraid it doesnt help with finding Thomas!


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The Lighter Side / Disappearing Bodies!
« on: Tuesday 22 April 14 11:46 BST (UK)  »
Hi all :)

Does anyone have any advise for a novice? Basically, ive traced my family back to a Thomas Emmet who died in Thornton Bradford aged 35. I have burial records for all the 3 churches in the village and he is not buried here. I can trace hia wife, Hannah, back to 2 potential baptisms, but Thomas is nowhere. He appears on the 1841 census but dies 2 years later.

Im tempted to assume he is not from Thornton but I also cant get any information on his marriage to Hannah (Robinson) I know they married Sept 1833 but it just says Bradford.

My research has come to a complete standstill. Ive no idea where to look for him. No baptism records seem to match on Ancestry either. Of course there are lots but with no date of birth as such and no idea where he came from it would be near impossible to discover which one is mine. Im tempted to say Halifax as there are a few Emmets there but again, thats a guess.

Any help would be very much appriciated! So frustrating to get stuck! ,

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Hiding Ancestors!
« on: Tuesday 01 April 14 18:55 BST (UK)  »
Richard and Sarah both go by Robinson, never Emmett. Also, Sarahs marriage cert she has no father listed. Why would she not add Thomas, especially seen as he died very young and she was the informant of his death. I would imagine any daughter whose father died so young would want to carry his name.

It is possible, but even if they had them out of wedlock, why would they not change to Emmett?
No, I genuinely believe they were Hannahs, especially considering she was 5 years Thomas' senior.

I now need to trace his lineage.  The oil painting I have as a profile photo looks very much like my late Grandfather. This man is named as William Emmott 1809 - 1879. Potentially a brother of Thomas maybe. 

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Hiding Ancestors!
« on: Tuesday 01 April 14 15:03 BST (UK)  »
We have found him :)

He died in South Square at Thornton village age 35. Apparently his death cert states liver disease as cause of death but its very sad as he left a wife, a 9 year old and a 5 year old and Hannah, his last daughter was born in 1843, he died 16th october 1843.

Such a tragedy must have been covered in papers.

Thanks al for your help, what a womderful source of help this site is

I have 2 birth certs that I dont want as they were the wrong people. Im going to post on here to see if anyone else would use them.

Right, time to search papers I think :)

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Hiding Ancestors!
« on: Tuesday 01 April 14 13:22 BST (UK)  »
I have requested a copy of a death certificate so hopefully they'll shed some more light on the matter.

I would thjnk it unlikely that his mother shared the same name as his wife?? Not impossible but I just dont get the feeling that this isnt mine. He would have been nearer 40 on the 1851 census too

Again, the children could have been Thomas' but he would have had to have been 15 when he fathered Richard, and 16 when he fathered Sarah, so again, i feel its more likely they were Hannahs

I just have a feeling he died young. I hope not, but i suspect he may have done

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Hiding Ancestors!
« on: Monday 31 March 14 20:55 BST (UK)  »
Oh fantastic! Thank you

That narrows down the time of Thomas death/left them.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Hiding Ancestors!
« on: Monday 31 March 14 20:22 BST (UK)  »
I dont think so, as I say, Hannah married John and was living with him in 1851 and Benjamin had Johns surname. There was a Hannah, 3 years younger than Benjamin. Im trying to trace her now to see if she was Johns, Thomas' or maybe adopted

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Hiding Ancestors!
« on: Monday 31 March 14 20:04 BST (UK)  »
In 1841 there was
Thos Emmel (Thomas Emmett) 30
Hannah Emmel 35
Richard Emmel 15
Sarah Emmel 14
Mary Emmel 5
Benjamin Emmel 3

Educated guess is Richard and Sarah are illegitimate,  Mary and Benjamin are hia.
Sarah has no father on her later marriage to Chas Parkinson, so she is definately illegitimate

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Hiding Ancestors!
« on: Monday 31 March 14 19:49 BST (UK)  »
Thanks all :)

All information suggested is correct. I just cannot find this man!

Yes, he can be eliminated, my Thomas would have been between 30 and 40 when he died. Hannah only married John in 1850, and then all lived with him in 1851. Im wondering if Thomas died near to that time than 1841 time. I really need to find his parents too but the marriage certificate ti Hannah has no informaion at all really.

Very frustrating! I need to find where they married to try find more details on them.

Im wondering why they married out of the village and St Peters though. Interesting indeed!

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