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Other Countries / Re: Records in Argentina 1900-1950?
« on: Tuesday 01 March 16 06:39 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for finding them, Mary, I'll do that!
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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: John Henry Thomas Parr 1898 (AKA Jack, Dick)
« on: Tuesday 17 November 15 15:45 GMT (UK) »
I've just received the marriage record for JHT Parr and Amy Newman. The name given on the record is Jack Henry John Parr, the father's name and occupation being Thomas William Parr, horse keeper. His age matches his birth record to within a year so I'm pretty certain it's my father's brother.
I've also found three Electoral Register entries in Lambeth for 1929, 1930, & 1932, in which Amy and Jack are listed.
But there's still no trace of him (that I can find) in the 1911 census.
There is a death record for a Jack HJ and a Jack HT (both point to the same record) in Holborn 1960 and I'm therefore inclined to accept this as the same person. I probably need to order the death certificate but I'm not expecting it to tell me a lot.
I've not been able to trace probate records for either Amy (died 1973) or Jack (died 1960).
So for the moment I'm looking for other children of JHT & AA, and anything further on Olive ...
I've also found three Electoral Register entries in Lambeth for 1929, 1930, & 1932, in which Amy and Jack are listed.
But there's still no trace of him (that I can find) in the 1911 census.
There is a death record for a Jack HJ and a Jack HT (both point to the same record) in Holborn 1960 and I'm therefore inclined to accept this as the same person. I probably need to order the death certificate but I'm not expecting it to tell me a lot.
I've not been able to trace probate records for either Amy (died 1973) or Jack (died 1960).
So for the moment I'm looking for other children of JHT & AA, and anything further on Olive ...
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Other Countries / Re: Records in Argentina 1900-1950?
« on: Wednesday 11 November 15 15:58 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for looking, Maggsie, and thank you groom for jumping in.
As groom said, his father was Thomas William. Thomas William and the family are in the 1901 census. For completeness: Thomas William Parr 1867, Edith Louise Tidy 1873, Arthur William Parr 1895, Ellen Jane Parr 1897, and John (Jack, Dick) Henry Thomas Parr 1898.
As groom said, his father was Thomas William. Thomas William and the family are in the 1901 census. For completeness: Thomas William Parr 1867, Edith Louise Tidy 1873, Arthur William Parr 1895, Ellen Jane Parr 1897, and John (Jack, Dick) Henry Thomas Parr 1898.
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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: John Henry Thomas Parr 1898 (AKA Jack, Dick)
« on: Wednesday 11 November 15 13:35 GMT (UK) »
My father went to the Argentine in 1920 and stayed there (with occasional trips back to the UK) until 1943 ish when he returned to the UK to sign up for WWII. I don't know why he chose the Argentine.
<http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=734978.0>
So where was he in 1911?
I suppose it's possible that the family emigrated as a whole before then, but if that were the case then my father would not have sailed from the UK.
And then we have JHT (apparently) turning up in 1939 having (apparently) married in the UK in 1931.
Additionally, my father gave Jack as next of kin when he joined up for the 1914-18 war in 1914.
It's a puzzle!
<http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=734978.0>
So where was he in 1911?
I suppose it's possible that the family emigrated as a whole before then, but if that were the case then my father would not have sailed from the UK.
And then we have JHT (apparently) turning up in 1939 having (apparently) married in the UK in 1931.
Additionally, my father gave Jack as next of kin when he joined up for the 1914-18 war in 1914.
It's a puzzle!
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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: John Henry Thomas Parr 1898 (AKA Jack, Dick)
« on: Wednesday 11 November 15 13:11 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for searching, at least that gives me confidence that I haven't missed anything obvious. Doesn't help find them tho' <grin>.
Thomas William came from Isleworth, I wonder whether they might have gone back there? But even so, they should show up in the C1911 I would have thought. I find it hard to imagine a reason for a complete vanishing act.
That's why the 1939 register was helpful, the first evidence that JHT at least was still around.
Looking for Ellen Jane in the 1939 is a bit of a challenge, it's reasonable to expect she would have married (but where's the marriage record?), or died (ditto death record), or retained her own name. There are 42 Ellens with the right birthday (09 04 1897) in the 1939 register, I'm not inclined to pay to unlock all of them!
I wonder whether we might be able to find Olive at school before she was evacuated (if that's what she was).
Thomas William came from Isleworth, I wonder whether they might have gone back there? But even so, they should show up in the C1911 I would have thought. I find it hard to imagine a reason for a complete vanishing act.
That's why the 1939 register was helpful, the first evidence that JHT at least was still around.
Looking for Ellen Jane in the 1939 is a bit of a challenge, it's reasonable to expect she would have married (but where's the marriage record?), or died (ditto death record), or retained her own name. There are 42 Ellens with the right birthday (09 04 1897) in the 1939 register, I'm not inclined to pay to unlock all of them!
I wonder whether we might be able to find Olive at school before she was evacuated (if that's what she was).
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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: John Henry Thomas Parr 1898 (AKA Jack, Dick)
« on: Wednesday 11 November 15 12:10 GMT (UK) »
They were Thomas William Parr 1867, and Edith Louise Tidy 1873, married 1894.
Three children as far as I can tell: Arthur William, Ellen Jane, and John Henry Thomas. The baptism for JHT has him as John, freeBMD has him as Jack, and the 1901 census has him as Dick. That last is my best interpretation as "John" does not appear, and "Dick" only appears this once.
Three children as far as I can tell: Arthur William, Ellen Jane, and John Henry Thomas. The baptism for JHT has him as John, freeBMD has him as Jack, and the 1901 census has him as Dick. That last is my best interpretation as "John" does not appear, and "Dick" only appears this once.
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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: John Henry Thomas Parr 1898 (AKA Jack, Dick)
« on: Wednesday 11 November 15 11:49 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for that pointer to the NA help file, that explains it well. I've also found the Evacuees Reunion Association.
The link through the school sounds like the best bet. Many thanks, groom!
The link through the school sounds like the best bet. Many thanks, groom!
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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: John Henry Thomas Parr 1898 (AKA Jack, Dick)
« on: Wednesday 11 November 15 11:26 GMT (UK) »
Were any records kept of children evacuated, returned, re-evacuated, etc.? There must have been quite an organisation to find safe homes.
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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: John Henry Thomas Parr 1898 (AKA Jack, Dick)
« on: Wednesday 11 November 15 09:12 GMT (UK) »
Thank you groom, I hadn't realised that the evacuation began that early.
Might you also know about death records during the second world war? I've been unable to find anything for JHT Parr and Ellen Jane Parr, there's no C1911 record for the Parr family (that I have found so far, ever hopeful!), and no death records (ditto) The 1939 find of JHT Parr with Amy was the first indication that he survived WWI (if it's the right JHT Parr!).
After the war, presumably parents who had survived "reclaimed" their children? And the assumption is that if they didn't claim the children then they had not survived?
I can see I need to do some reading around the Home Front.
Might you also know about death records during the second world war? I've been unable to find anything for JHT Parr and Ellen Jane Parr, there's no C1911 record for the Parr family (that I have found so far, ever hopeful!), and no death records (ditto) The 1939 find of JHT Parr with Amy was the first indication that he survived WWI (if it's the right JHT Parr!).
After the war, presumably parents who had survived "reclaimed" their children? And the assumption is that if they didn't claim the children then they had not survived?
I can see I need to do some reading around the Home Front.
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