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South Africa / Re: Annan family in SOuth Africa
« on: Tuesday 19 November 24 17:03 GMT (UK)  »
Pampoen - Thanks for the info. As it happens I found Marriage Certs for two of my relatives who married in South Africa just yesterday on Family Search. I wasn't aware of Ancestorsonboard, but I'll have a look and see if I can come up with something.
You have been a great help with this info and it is much appreciated. Cheers

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South Africa / Re: Annan family in SOuth Africa
« on: Monday 18 November 24 11:38 GMT (UK)  »
pampoen - Thanks for the info and the Familysearch source. I hadn't been able to find/access this detail, although I am aware of both names and have provisionally included them into my tree, but I have not been able to verify either name which definitively identifies this Martha Elizabeth as the daughter of John. I find it odd that John, together with his wife and several children seem to have disappeared off the face of the Earth. And, whilst it is a likely scenario that they as a family emigrated, I cannot find anything to link them as a family to a ships passenger list. Finally for now, would you happen to know if a). marriage certificates are obtainable from outside of South Africa? and b). whether those cerificates name parents and/or persons present?
More generally, does anyone know of any of the shipping lines, carrying passengers, that sailed from Liverpool to South Africa?
Thanks again

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South Africa / Re: Annan family in SOuth Africa
« on: Sunday 17 November 24 12:56 GMT (UK)  »
Hrob123.... This is a very late response.... 14 years perhaps? But, this may or may not be of any assistance. I too am having some difficulty tracing possible ancestors who may have emigrated to South Africa. Which is part of the reason for this very late post.
In a nutshell, John Johnston(e) was born in Annan, Dumfries-shire, Scotland in 1840, (According to the 1841 Scottish Census). He moved to England and the Isle of Man, where he married Jane Edgar in June 1859. Eventually they had 5 children and moved to an address in Walker Street, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England. The 1881 Census records him as a 'Beer House Keeper', (a pub landlord).
After 1881, there is no verifiable information on John, his wife Jane or any of his children, save my G.G.Great Grandfather Douglas. By 1891, John's brother Peter and his wife Mary and their family have moved into the premises, and there is no signs of John or any members of his family.
Over time I have tried to trace John and his family, but there is no concrete information that tells of what happened to them. However, a female named Martha Johnston did apparently marry an Owen William Rolfe, who, it would appear travelled to South Africa. Although I can find no emigration information on any of them.
So, if any of your distant relatives had the surnames Johnston, Edgar or Rolfe, there may be a slim chance that they are originally from Annan in Dumfries.
I know it's a long shot, but hey, the information on these things does come from the strangest connections.... Good luck.
P.S. If anyone can shed any light on the likely places to look for the family, it would be much appreciated.

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Tyrone / Re: Johnson / Johnston / Johnstone etc
« on: Wednesday 25 December 13 19:10 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Ian BoJo on Wednesday 30 October 13 13:19 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

I'm looking for anyone with Johnson / Johnston / Johnstone etc descent who have had their DNA checked and have indicated that they have descent from Annandale in Dumfriesshire, Scotland.

Many thanks

Ian BoJo

Read your post and the replies with interest. I have traced my family history, father to father to father, etc, etc, back to John Johnstone born 1600. I am confident that my research is correct and that my ancestors are direct descendants of John.....

Extract from Medieval Families Unit (as of January 1995), 50 E North Temple St, Salt Lake City UT 84150.......

"......George, the eldest son of John Johnstone of Mylnfleld and Galabank, married in 1643 Agnes Grahame, a descendant of the Laird of Johnstone, who died in 1567....."

I have no doubt that I am descended, but why would you want DNA?

Just because someone has some traces of a particular DNA profile, it does not unequivocally prove that they came from a particular town or clan. It will prove that they are of a particular race and from a certain area, but over a 400 year timespan, you're making huge assumptions to suggest that it proves it without doubt!

I would be happy to assist if you tell me what you're looking for, providing you're not charging someone else for my information!

Look at http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/47632433/person/24054703818/mediax/1?pgnum=1&pg=0&pgpl=pid%7CpgNum

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