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Forfarian: I have James & Hamish as both being born in 1897, and they were on different censuses, so I'm assuming it's just that I misinterpreted it and listed them as two different people. That's pretty interesting, thank you!

Sandram: Wow, hi! It's somewhat reassuring to know that other people in the family have been struggling to find stuff about James :P. My grandmother is the daughter of George; James & Mary's oldest child. So I think that would make you my grandma's cousin? I still haven't asked her if she knows anything about James, which I really should.

Your posts about the possibility of James potentially living with the witnesses on his marriage certificate are really interesting.

Please do keep me updated. I'm working on a different side of my family tree currently, but I'll be sure to tell you if I find out anything about James.

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Scotland / Re: Difficulty finding parents/early life of James McIntosh, b. 1867 d. 1944
« on: Wednesday 08 January 14 22:19 GMT (UK)  »
MonicaL: Wow! That's amazing. Thank you for putting so much effort into this. I looked into it, and
unfortunately I found a record of death for a James Thomson/Murdoch aged 68 in Aberdeen in 1938, so I'm assuming he's not my James.

The thought that he might have changed his name is an excellent idea & not one that I'd considered. Assuming he was born in Moray, it's quite a move to Perth, which would fit if he'd run away from home. I'm planning on asking my grandmother if she can tell me anything about James. He died when she was quite young, but she might be able to remember something, and if he did run away from home he might have mentioned it to someone.


I'm assuming that James & Mary didn't follow the traditional naming pattern. Here's the list of their children I have:

George McIntosh (after James' dad?)
Mary McIntosh (after Mary)
James McIntosh (after James)
Hamish McIntosh
Marjory McIntosh (after Mary's mum)
Donald McIntosh (after Mary's dad)
Margaret McIntosh (after Mary's sister)
Alaster McIntosh
Hector McIntosh
Christina McIntosh (after Mary's sister)

As you can see, the names don't really match up with the traditional naming pattern. But the names of James' children being potentially indicative of James' family is something else I hadn't considered, and which could be really helpful. Thank you!

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Forfarian: it's possible he was illegitimate, I suppose. His marriage certificate said that his parents were married, which made me think he was legitimate. I know the information about parents on marriage records is self reported though, so he could well have been wrong if his parents had died while he was still young.

I know the census doesn't give a year of birth, but I figured it was kind of long winded to say "in 1891 he said he was 24 which means he was probably born in about 1867". As I said, I think he probably got his date of birth wrong anyway, since there's no James McIntosh with his age/place of birth on the 1881 or 1871 census.

Thank you for the suggestion, though.


MonicaL: Yeah, those are the censuses I have for him in 1891 & 1901! Although Ancestry said James was a visitor in the house, not a nephew. Was it mistranscribed?

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Scotland / Re: Difficulty finding parents/early life of James McIntosh, b. 1867 d. 1944
« on: Thursday 19 December 13 21:02 GMT (UK)  »
Ruskie, yeah, I've been checking for variations of McIntosh. (And thank you!)

bleckie, thanks! I checked that record, and unfortunately it says his parents were Donald McDonald & Isabella Gilbert, so I think it's the wrong one.

higgsy, James was a joiner on his marriage certificate & on the censuses as well.

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Scotland / Difficulty finding parents/early life of James McIntosh, b. 1867 d. 1944
« on: Thursday 19 December 13 12:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all. I'm having difficulty finding the parents of my great-great-granddad, as well as anything on his early life.

He was called James McIntosh. According to the censuses he was on, he was born in 1867 in Elgin. He married a Mary McDonald in 1892 in Perthshire, and the marriage record said his parents were George McIntosh, a fisherman, & Annie McIntosh née Gold, both deceased.

I have James on the 1891-1911 censuses, as well as his marriage & death certificates. I'm just having difficulty finding him on the 1871/1881 censuses, as well as any record of his parents existing.

I've checked all the statutory records of people called Ann marrying people called George McIntosh, and none of them are right. Same with the parish marriage records. In fact, there's no record of an Ann McIntosh née Gold dying in Scotland at all. Which makes me think he either got his parents names wrong, or they just didn't marry. I also think he may have gotten his date/place of birth wrong, since none of the James McIntoshes on the 1871 census said they were born in 1867 in Elgin.

Can anyone help me out?

Thanks in advance!

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