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Hello Emyr....

I am so sorry I did not see your responses earlier. I have the corrected pedigree... there remain some gaps but much of the correct story has been put together.

I descend (via adoption) through Robert Williams and Johanna Hurly. Robert (1804-1869) is the younger brother of David Williams MP of Castell Deudraeth (1799-1869).

The legal offices of the Breese family are still extant in Portmadoc but I have not contacted members of that branch of the family tree.   

Thanks so much for all the help, "Diolch!"

Rachel 

Hello everyone

I have posted before and received great help piecing together the various parts of this family for which I am most grateful. My question today revolves around 2 pedigrees that may connect at some point but currently appear to be at odds.

One is from Burkes' Peerage and the other from J. E. Griffith's 1914 Pedigree of Anglesey and Carnarvonshire Families. Hopefully, someone familiar with all this can help shed some light.

Burke's 1894 reads:

WILLIAMS OF DEUDRAETH CASTLE.

Lineage—

Gethin Wynne, of Saethon, who assumed the surname of Williams, was the son of Maurice Wynne, of Saethon, by Catherine his wife, dau. of Maurice Williams, of Hafodgarregog ; m. Jane, dau. of Robert Price, of Plasdu, and had a son, William Williams, of Saethon, ra. Eleanor, dau. of Arthur
Devereux, of Nantycribba, co. Montgomery, and had a son, Arthur Evans Williams, of Saethon, m. Elnaia, dau. of Eichard Anwyl, of Dolfiiog, co. Merioneth, and had a son, John Williams, of Saethon, m. 1748, Ann, dau. and co- heiress of Dafyd ap Griffith, of llendre, and d. 1796, leaving
a son, David Williams, Esq. of Saethon, who, by Jane his wife (whom he m. 19 May, 1790) had several sons and daus.

The 1914 pedigree ties John Williams to father William the son of Ann Trygarn the daughter of Richard Trygarn. John's wife also differs as she is identified as Anne Griffith in the 1894 publication as opposed to an Anne Davies in the 1914 pedigree.

1914 pedigree

Ann Jones d.1736 (aged 102!) daughter of Richard Trygarn d. 1666 aged 80 years
William Jones d. 1748 married 2x - first wife = Jonet ; second wife = Ann Hughes
John Williams 1713-1796 m. Anne Roberts d. of Robert Davies of Lonfydyr
David Williams of Saethon d.1823 marries Jane (Jones?) daughter of Capt. Edward Jones of Coed Marion.

Any help sorting out this mess is appreciated.

Diolch!

Rachel Williams
Sidney BC
Canada

Thanks so much for taking the time, Galium. I have been looking at that and as well as the will of Eustace's father (another Eustace). Somehow the whole line goes back to Tetsworth, Oxfordshire but I am missing a few significant pieces to the puzzle.

So I suspect Eustace Petty 1660-1675 is the son of Eustace Petty d. 1682 and Elizabeth (maiden name unknown)  d. 1685

The Eustace you kindly found was married to Mary Rice b.1663- ?

Here is a list of known Siblings for Eustace 1660-1675

Joyce Petty m. Thomas Plater
Judith Petty m. Alexander Travell
Jane Petty 1648-1717 m. Edmund Mason and later John Parran 1638-1725
Alexander Petty of Hethe 1653-1725  m. Mildred (maiden name unknown)
Nathaniel Petty

Alexander Petty is well documented but I have very little on Nathaniel other than another litigation reference involving himself and sister, Joyce against their brother-in-law, Alexander Travell.

Elizabeth Mason has two brothers-in-law cited in John Mason's will. Neither of whom is an Edmund. I obtained Edmund's name via Eustace Petty's d. 1862 Will. Nonetheless, Edmund may be a deceased sibling to them.

I don't think Elizabeth is Eustace 1660-1735 2nd wife because she outlives him by a year but is not mentioned in the will.

I have no death date for his 1st wife, Mary Rice b. 1663

Rachel (thanks again)
 

Thanks so much Alan... It's a bit of a longshot but your help is "greatly" appreciated. Captain Barrow's wife, Jane nee Williams is said to have died in China of yellow fever and I am hoping there is a marker for Ress with some reference to her as the family really has no concrete evidence as to her fate.

Rachel