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Hi,

I'm afraid the post of 26/10/2012 was a different John Weir, so we'll have to see whether he replies still.

The stone for the old John Weir is #258 in the monumental inscriptions document, which describes most of it as illegible. I guess I just tried harder! If you send me a direct message with your email address then I can send the photo if you're interested.

Best regards,
John

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Hello Jack - interestingly, Thomas Weir (b. 1790), younger brother of your ancestor David Weir (b. 1778) who married Margaret Hamilton, also married a Hamilton - Mary Hamilton. I wonder if these two brothers married two sisters, although I haven't researched the Hamilton families at all, so this could just be coincidence

Graeme, a few bits of info I have about James, husband of Jean Mitchell, and possible ancestors:

1. I have a photo of a gravestone in Cumnock, which I'm pretty certain belongs to this James. The text says "James Weir late in Auchingibert who died the 30 of June 1810 aged 72 years." This is a slight puzzle to me, as every reference I've seen to this James on forums has his year of birth as 1748, but an age of 72 years in 1810 would imply birth in 1738 or thereabouts. Of course, it could be that his age was recorded incorrectly on the stone

2. Thomas Weir's birth record from 1790 shows that James Weir and Jean Mitchell were living at Blackfaulds at that time

3. From 1798, a horse tax record showing James as living at Auchingibbert

4. A photo of a gravestone in the same cemetery as James's, with the following text "This is the [illegible] of John Weir who died June 18 1728. This stone was erected by John and David and James Weirs his sons". Clearly this John died before James was born, but he could still be an ancestor. Unless he died rather young, I don't think his son John is the same as the John you have as born in 1718, who in any case you say is probably the son of William Weir. However, he could be William Weir's father (maybe William wasn't involved in erecting the stone because he was in Antrim?) or one of the three sons mentioned on the stone could have been the father of the John born in 1718 (if the connection to William turns out to be wrong). Or he might not be in the direct line at all

5. Various other Weirs I found in parish registers for Old Cumnock but haven't been able to link to James:
- John Weir (b. 1704), son of John Weir and Janet Brown
- James Weir (b. 1727), son of Robert Weir
- John Weir (b. 1732), son of William Weir and Elspeth Samson

I'd be interested to hear about any documents you found linking James Weir to the John Weir born in 1718, as my inability to find records of James's birth or marriage has had me stumped for a long time.

I live in London, so no problems with time zones for talking online. I think I have an Ancestry account, but let the subscription lapse years ago, so I'll have to see if I can dig out the login details and reactivate it.

Kind regards,
John

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Hi Graeme,

I’m very happy to see this thread come back to life after quite a few years! James Weir was my 5 x great grandfather, via Thomas Weir (b. 1790) and a succession of Johns. I found a few documents about James - a couple of tax records and a digitised version of an early edition of Burns’s poetry where James was listed as a subscriber. But I never found a birth or marriage entry in the parish registers, so couldn’t be completely sure of the line going any further back. I was in Cumnock a few years ago and found some gravestones with older Weirs, but couldn’t be sure how they were related to each other. If you have any further information, I would be fascinated to compare notes.

Kind regards,
John Weir

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Hi all,

I've traced my ancestry back to James Weir and Jean Mitchell via their son Thomas (b. 1790), but haven't been able to find James' birth in any parish records. Does anybody know what records link him to John Weir and Agnes Hunter? I've seen this connection on Ancestry.co.uk, but I've also seen them claimed as parents of a James Weir also born in 1748, but with a different spouse and children. I'm hoping to find a source other than Ancestry.co.uk family trees so I can be more sure if the link!

Best wishes,
John Weir

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