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Lincolnshire / Re: The Miller of Market Deeping
« on: Saturday 02 November 13 12:49 GMT (UK)  »
On your first point - Thomas Rawnsley was born in Bradford but moved to Bourne with his brother and became very successful.  He married Deborah Hardwicke at Peterborough Cathedral in 1784.  Deborah was the sister of William Hardwicke of Market Deeping.  Thomas and Deborah Rawnsley  have many famous descendants. Their daughter Elizabeth Rawnsley married Rev William Hardwicke in Bourne in 1810. This is the "similar marriage" you refer to.  The Rev William was  the son of Robert Hardwicke, an apothecary and surgeon in Wisbech, who was also the brother of Deborah Hardwicke.  Hence the Rev. William Hardwicke and Elizabeth Rawnsley were first cousins.  Their daughter Eliza Deborah Hardwicke (b Outwell 1819) was my great great grandmother. I've lots more details on these people if anyone wants it.

On your second - Fletton is not that far away - perhaps Elizabeth was in service there.  Their children were all baptised in Bourne.  But thanks for the info in the wills which clearly suggests William Hardwicke and Elizabeth Thorpe were the ones who married.

Thanks also for the witnesses at the 1810 marriage.  Eliza Andrews would be the daughter of William Hardwicke the miller, she married in 1805, and cousin of both the bride and groom.

Rob


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Lincolnshire / Re: The Miller of Market Deeping
« on: Friday 01 November 13 17:30 GMT (UK)  »
Yes I agree the marriage in Fletton is not definite though I have never managed to find another marriage of William and Elizabeth Hardwicke that fits.

I don't have  many references to William Hardwicke as a miller other than what's been said already and

1.  William Hardwicke, miller, Market Deeping - game duty - in the Stamford Mercury  17 Sep 1790
2. William Hardwicke, Market Deeping  and others, signatories to a notice about the theft of sacks.  Stamford Mercury 15 Apr 1779.  So he was presumably in business by then though it doesn't say he was a miller
3.  Gentlemen's Magazine 1805 marriage of Elizabeth 2nd daughter of William Hardwicke, miller to Joseph Andrew of East India Co.  (Contrary to an earlier posting two of William's daughters survived to adulthood) Witness was Mary Hardwicke


What I'm really struggling is with is which William Hardwicke married Elizabeth Thorpe.  I'm not convinced it was the one born in Bourne in 1721.


Regards,

Rob

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Lincolnshire / Re: The Miller of Market Deeping
« on: Friday 01 November 13 15:40 GMT (UK)  »
I'm interested in this discussion.  My 4x great grandparents were Robert Hardwicke, and Deborah Hardwicke, brother and sister of the miller William Hardwicke.  (Deborah married Thomas Rawnsley and their daughter Elizabeth married Robert's son William.)  I've a lot more information on all of them.

It may be a coincidence but I think that Robert, Deborah and William's father William Hardwicke married Elizabeth Thorpe at Fletton near Peterborough on 19 Jan 1741.  She died at Market Deeping in 1791 aged 69 and according to the Gentleman's Magazine left 53 children and grandchildren.  Could she be related to the other Thorpes you have identified?

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