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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Joseph FRY 1812 Guernsey
« on: Wednesday 14 June 06 22:01 BST (UK)  »
I have completed the pages on the Fry family in the area
of Penzance starting from 1768.
http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~treevecwll/frypz.htm
Despite many clues and offers, there have not
yet been any conclusive parents for Joseph Fry
who was married in 1768; I am however, convinced
that his origins were in Devon, he sailed via
Weymouth; and his family grew from Guernsey.
Ther are obviously other children, but I have not been
able to find them, it is especially difficult, given the
nature of Joseph John Fry's father in his occupation
as sailor. Many of his family could well have been
born at sea, for that matter.
Unless anyone can add to these pages, I am content
with the results.

Best Wishes
Raymond

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Joseph FRY 1812 Guernsey
« on: Thursday 08 June 06 22:55 BST (UK)  »
Hello - I have put together a summary
of what I have .... This will be expanded
on the website, with narrative and census
and register details, etc ....

Joseph Fry ( soldier ) m Mary Stephens
Madron 26th January 1768
I believe him to have come from Devon,
I have two parallel leads which point in that
direction.

Their son was Joseph Fry, a sailor. He
lived in Penzance and sailed to the Channel Islands,
and I have reliable published narrative that
confirms that he was in Penzance in 1808.
I believe he married in Guernsey. I have some
information from the Guernsey census and
someone on the Island that confirms this.
I also have historical information which gives
background to the Devon and Channel Islands
connection with Penwith.

His son was also Joseph Fry, born Guernsey 1812.
He arrived in Landewdnack ( near the Lizard )
and married Jane Williams Eddy 3rd November 1835.
The Marriage Certificate shows he was named
Joseph John Fry. "A labourer of Lizard Town".
There was a cholera epidemic in Penwith in 1832,
which would explain the death of both his father
and wife before 1838, since at that time it is shown
on the register entry that his father was deceased.
Jane died and he re-married to Mary Ann Hall
in Germoe Parish. 6th October 1838. Joseph is
noted at "Joseph Fry, widower and husbandman,
son of Jospeh Fry, sailor. ( I have read the original
entry in the Registry ). They had 12 children.
Joseph Fry became a tin mine worker.
The Cornishman newspaper announcement of
his death 6th January 1882 gives his age as 62.
The address was given as 12, Prospect Place.

The 12 children were
Ann, Mary Ann, Elizabeth, Rebecca, Elizabeth,
Susanna, Joseph Thomas, Rebecca, Martha,
Joseph Thomas, John Edwin and William George.
A number did not survive to adulthood.

Joseph Thomas Fry m Victoria Jasper.1878

They had seven children.
Joseph Thomas, Ernest, Elizabeth, Jessica,
Leonard, Annie and Joseph.

I am descended from
Jessica Fry m Edward Forward 1911
"Jessie" was my grandmother.

Best Wishes
Raymond


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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Joseph FRY 1812 Guernsey
« on: Thursday 08 June 06 08:40 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone,
Just to update you all ....
I now have a great deal more time available,
and so I will now be concentrating on
completing the various parts of my website,
including the Fry Tree.

Best Wishes
Raymond

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Devon / Re: Thurban/Thorburn - Exeter
« on: Tuesday 22 November 05 22:54 GMT (UK)  »
Hello and thank you for your reply ....
my interest is for a friend, who wondered where
the family came from ... and it seems they were related
in some way to a family with greater connections.
I'll get back to you shortly on all of this ....
Certainly your research fits in nicely with my own.
Best Wishes
Raymond

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Joseph FRY 1812 Guernsey
« on: Friday 11 November 05 23:11 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Terry and Jean,
Apologies for the longer than planned delay.
I will soon be able to set out the tree I have
on my website ....
Good to hear from you Jean.
More soon, I am in the midst of finishing
the WH Podd fleet details ....
Best Wishes
Raymond

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Devon / Thurban/Thorburn - Exeter
« on: Tuesday 01 March 05 12:42 GMT (UK)  »
I am looking for the family of James Thurban in Devon.
They seem to have been in Devon for a matter of a few years.

James Thurban's family can be traced in Mousehole and Penzance ( Cornwall )
right to the present. But his first appearance is in the 1851 Devon Census at 11 Willow Street
Plymouth. Recorded as James  THURBIN - Lodger, unmarried, aged 26, a Shoe Maker
Journeyman, born Exeter-DEVON. He later shows in the 1871 Census Parish MOUSEHOLE, as
James THURBAN, aged 38, a CORDWAINER born  EXETER, Devonshire.

I have found
GEORGINA JILL THURBAN  ( note – same names as James’ daughter in Mousehole )
 Christened  26 OCT 1829   Saint Mary Arches, Exeter daughter of  ROBERT THURBAN and ANN 
and
ANN THURBAN  married  EDWARD ELLIS PENDER 10 MAR 1834   Saint Mary Arches, Exeter.

According to the marriage registry entry  23 OCT 1865   Madron, Cornwall,
JAMES THURBAN was  34;  he married CATHERINE CHIRGWIN ( 20 ) .
He died  Dec 1879 Thurban James ( 51 )   Penzance 5c 193  which suggests he was born 1828.
His son ( James Henry Thurban born Jun 1871 -Penzance )  died Sep 1892  East Stonehouse  5b 174   

Any ideas and help will be very welcome
Best Wishes   :) :)

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Hannah FORWARD - Hull
« on: Thursday 30 December 04 08:37 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for your kind offer,
I would be delighted if you would
send these details to me, at

raymondcwll
@
zoom.co.uk

Best Wishes,
treeve


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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Hannah FORWARD - Hull
« on: Tuesday 07 December 04 14:22 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you so much, Cheryle,

Considering that there were only three Hannah Forwards around in 1881, of that age, by a process of elimination, looking at the John Forward who died in Hastings in 1908 aged 72 ( Courtesy of FreeBMD ) and by trolling through my notes, I can confirm that the only three John Forwards of that age were not married to any Hannahs, I can also confirm that the other two Hannah Forwards have been eliminated from possiblity of being the one you describe. So, she is my great grandmother. Of course, I will get a copy of the Registry Entry just to be absolutely sure. My grandfather also sailed in boats between Penzance and South Coast ports, as well as London and Hull, so it may well be that he took her to Sussex, after all I doubt she would want to settle in either Salford or Hull after all she went through. A restful place to live, I am sure ...
Thank you again,
I'll let you know the outcome ...
Very Best Wishes for Christmas and the New Year

treeve     :D :) :D

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Hannah FORWARD - Hull
« on: Monday 06 December 04 09:02 GMT (UK)  »
I may as well post this as it may trigger some memories ...

"A successful young tailor, and his wife, both from Pitminster in Somerset, moves to Bristol and then on to Manchester ( to follow his successful cousins who had moved earlier ). He and his wife suffer the loss of two
young children, a son dies at 21 years, business fails due to competition and industrialisation, arguments rise, he leaves for America, the ships sinks and Isaac drowns ( The "Glamorgan" Built 1872. In Service 1879-1883 chartered from South Wales Atlantic Co.  2,411 tons. Sank 16 February 1883 - Liverpool to Boston. Loss of 7 lives ), his wife is left penniless, two younger children sent to the Workhouse ( including Edward, my grandfather ). Edward learns the cornet and plays in the band at the opening of the Manchester Ship Canal - he gets a half-crown and a pint of ale "from" Queen Victoria. The two daughters find husbands in Manchester. My great grandmother ( Hannah ) and her young sons ( George, Charles and Edward ) move to Kingston upon Hull, the two eldest marry locally. Charles and his family moved to Grimsby. Charles became a minesweeper deck hand on HMS Actaeon, during the Great War and died 14/11/1919 on the Steam Trawler "Theban" Age: 45 Son of the late Mr. and Mrs. Forward; husband of Emily Wilkinson (formerly Forward, nee Rowan), of Back 37, Kent St., Grimsby. His memorial is at Tower Hill, London, because he was lost at sea. Edward works on coastal boats, landing in Penzance
and meeting a Cornish girl, and they marry and have 10 children, one of which was my father. Edward joins the local Fire brigade; he signs up for the Royal Navy
in the Great War, suffers injuries as a result of which he returns to work in Penzance on the coal carts; he dies at the age of 47 as a result of his injuries and the effects
of the coal dust. This leaves my grandmother penniless and struggling ...."

Best Wishes, treeve

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