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Hello all,

Is anyone familiar with the amount of, the prevalence of, or the processes taken by the Irish to go to the US illegally? Mostly speaking with regard to some of the more prominent ports of departure such as Derry and Lpool? Or if it's more a matter of port of arrival, the ports of New York City and Boston?

By illegal immigration here I'm jumping ship or using fake names/real names of relatives that were not them.

Obviously there's no official numbers or anything, so I don't need that lecture, just basically seeing if there's others with stories and or knowledge of such acts.

I don't think think any of them do either, not to my knowledge. That's why I said, typically RC. To simply state that no one has those titles would be misleading, that's why I didn't say that NO ONE in other denominations has ever had that title.

In other words, I have not personally met and monitored each and every priest/reverend, etc., and therefore me publicly denouncing that no one has such a title, would be a lie. I can be reasonably sure that there's been exceptions aside from official church titles. There is no church title, correct. People convert. There's Anglicans that have been given the title monsignor at a later time, there's various exceptions throughout history of people from every denomination. I am not going to mislead people by stating that it doesn't exist. Aside from that, you and I have already agreed that the whole "mgr" thing is probably not monsignor, so again, the point of my post was and still is the "numbers" portion. Which, if you've seen on some original records, even have £ s d on them above those numbers on them. So, if you have some other idea of what £ s d could possibly mean, other than money, then feel free to let everyone know. Aside from that, anyone else wondering what these numbers could mean, might find my post useful. If you don't find this to be useful information for you, then that is ok. Don't try to invalidate the useful portion of my post (the numbers) by undermining something that both of us already know that neither of us knows (the "mgr"), because that's not useful to anyone. If the information on these numbers is news to you, than I appreciate the cynicism, and being a researcher in a completely different field I understand where you're coming from when you come across something you believe you would've heard about before. There's not always everything is x and if not x, then y, no exceptions. There's exceptions to everything, and if you learn nothing from anything else I post, learn that.

Not sure what you mean by theory, I said TYPICALLY RC.

Another thing, the MGR title was used several denominations of Christianity. There are various informal definitions. Even in Catholicism, it used to vary in its meaning.

As far as the numbers go, that is is what most would consider a fact. Three priests that have no association with each other, other than having the same occupation and religious views, have backed that up. It stood for money, and for an honorarium. Yes, the numbers vary. When you them in the format of "0 0 0", regardless of what those numbers are, it's for accounting purposes

I've seen a marriage record where two known Roman Catholics married in a Church of Ireland parish.