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Hertfordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Leese Family
« on: Monday 28 September 20 21:49 BST (UK)  »
Hi there, William Smith Leese had a daughter, Emily. Emily married William Tuck 1873, Suez Consulate.
William Tuck was a superintendent for the Eastern Telegraph Company in Egypt.
William and Emily are back in England for the 1901 census in Scarborough:
William Tuck b. 1837 Stoke Newington
Emily Tuck b.1843 Coles Green, Herts.
Emily d. 1906 Scarborough
William d. 1909  "        "
Probate entries for both.
Currently I am not aware of any children of this marriage.
Currently I believe that William was the nephew of Samuel Smith, foreman of the covered reservoir, Dartmouth Park Hill, Upper Holloway. In Samuel Smith's 1900 will he bequeathed his New River Company presentation watch to his nephew, Willism Tuck. I have ordered the 1906 will of William Tuck in the hope that it will clarify whether this is the right William Tuck.
Following the death of Emily in 1906 William married 1907-ish Elizabeth Anne Sullivan ( b.1865, Ireland). Eliz. A died 1947.

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Hi Paul
Just looked at that before your new message. Yes, it lists Whitecross Street as missing but seemingly that bit which is in the parish of St Luke's (piece 668). The Whitecross St prison (according to the NA page) is in piece 727 but this does not appear on FindMyPast's list of missing 1841 pieces! Or is it simply missing off of the missing list...ha ha.
Will chase this up at some future point at the National Archives.
regards, Paul


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Hi Paul
Thanks for that. I was trying it on both Ancestry & FMPast. In the end I decided to try one of the other links Valda gave and managed to find the Fleet Prison no problem. I was going to give it a go with the other prison links Valda gave but your message just popped up.

I know from Googlebooks that Whitecross Street Prison was in the parish of St Giles (Without) Cripplegate.
Th National Archives 'Your Archives' page says the prison is in 'book12', yet there does not seem to be a book 12 to be seen on A or FMPast. A reference for something that doesn't appear to exist! Either they are physically missing or have degraded so much that no amount of digital enhancement will help.

I will research further ( perhaps at the National Archives) and am surprised that there seems to be no discussion on any chat-sites about missing census records for this once well known prison.
Many thanks again
Paul

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Hi,
 I'm pretty experienced re: Ancestry, Findmypast, digitized newspapers and archive centres. I'm struggling here too. I've have never needed to  search for a census page by its reference numbers but am now trying to do just that and  find the debtors prison in Whitecross Street in 1841. I have found the NA page 'Your Archives' via Valda's link (thanks) and the entry for the prison therein. Here is what it gives:

Reference: HO 107/727   

Book: 12   

Folio: 1-11

I had no problem finding the Ancestry page to enter these details but nothing I do seems to get me to what I want. I'm getting closer by entering 'East London' as the registration district and 'Cripplegate' as the sub-registration district (without that it was hopeless with hits from round the country!).

Valda, if you get this message can you possibly, line by line as per Ancestry's 1841 Census page, tell me what to enter and also confirm that you've done it yourself and you personally have gotten to the Whitecross prison pages.
Many thanks
Paul

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: James Bush - 1841 census please
« on: Wednesday 20 January 16 19:07 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

You do know there's an artist's impression of James Bush's carpentry workshop c. 1850?

Paul 

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London and Middlesex / Re: LCC Training College, Islington
« on: Thursday 24 October 13 20:02 BST (UK)  »
Dear Tofgem,

I have been assisting with the research of a diary (written 1936-1970s) of a woman, Miss G.H. Mears who trained as a teacher at the Islington Day Training College. So Valda's assertion that it was just for men is incorrect, at least for part of that establishment's history. Off the top of my head, I think it was built in 1903. The building is still standing though is probably converted to apartments.

There seems to be virtually no online material about this College.

The records of this training college are held by the Institute of Education (University of London): arch.enquiries [at] ioe.ac.uk

What was your gt uncles name?

I can send a few images/photos. My email: (*)

Paul

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Glamorganshire / Re: Griffiths in Llansamlet
« on: Sunday 15 September 13 12:50 BST (UK)  »
There's a seemingly excellent book about the copper industry in Swansea, called Copperopolis, by Stephen Hughes. It features various maps incl. one that shows the location of Gnap-coch. Whether it was a village as well, I'm not sure, but on the map there is the Gnap-coch Mansion, which according to the text, was converted into accomodation for the families of some of the White Rock copperworkers. I've not got the book but preview pages are available on Googlebooks if you go to..

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=oXjppt5BYjEC&pg=PA345&dq=cNAP+GOCH+llansamlet&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ZYo1Uu6AMoWu7AbekoEI&ved=0CDIQ6wEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22cNAP%20GOCh%22&f=false

...you can then click on a page and scroll through a selection of the pages.

My interest is in the family of Owen Owens, a foreman at the copperworks. on the 1851 Census he is at Llansamlet in the "village" of  "Knap Coach". His daughter, Margaret Owen(s) married Francis Nethersole, a clerk at the copperworks, in 1864, following the death of his English born wife, Mary, the year before. The marriage was the cause of much consternation on the part of Francis's widowed mother and her new husband, Howard Staunton, the former world chess champion. Francis and his illiterate new Welsh wife, Margaret, returned to London where he secured a job as clerk at the Admiralty in Whitehall. In 1874 their daughter Frances Nethersole was born. Her severely withered left arm was amputated when a toddler and she was orphaned by the age of 4. in the 1891 Census, now aged 16, she is at 10 Cathcart Hill, then a girls' boarding school, in North London. Today we live in flat B of that house.

All suggestions for reseaching the history of White Rock copperworks/ Llansamlet and the workers etc are very welcome.

Paul

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